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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:13 am to Roughneck
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:13 am to Roughneck
I always forget how old he is.
Dude is 43 pitching likes hes 23.
GOAT relief pitcher
WE are all witnesses
I wish he wasn't retiring. I would be interested to see how long he could keep this production up. You know you're a beast when you retire at such an old age with likely a sub 2.00 ERA
Dude is 43 pitching likes hes 23.
GOAT relief pitcher
WE are all witnesses
I wish he wasn't retiring. I would be interested to see how long he could keep this production up. You know you're a beast when you retire at such an old age with likely a sub 2.00 ERA
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:15 am to oleyeller
quote:
overrated stat "saves"
overrated position "closing pitcher"
I agree in both regards.
But that doesn't make Mo any less dominant or awesome. He's amazing.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:18 am to OBUDan
Saves are a near worthless statistic. Closers are the most coddled, overrated athletes in pro sports...
Unless that closer is Mo Rivera, who is the greatest postseason pitcher of all time. And if all closers were as valuable as Rivera, then closers wouldn't be overrated. He truly is unique.
Unless that closer is Mo Rivera, who is the greatest postseason pitcher of all time. And if all closers were as valuable as Rivera, then closers wouldn't be overrated. He truly is unique.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:26 am to Baloo
From USA Today earlier this spring --
More people have walked on the moon (12) than men who have scored against Mariano Rivera in the postseason (11).
Rivera started pitching in the postseason in 1997. The Yankees made the playoffs just about every season and made all those World Series runs.
More people have walked on the moon (12) than men who have scored against Mariano Rivera in the postseason (11).
Rivera started pitching in the postseason in 1997. The Yankees made the playoffs just about every season and made all those World Series runs.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:29 am to Baloo
quote:
Unless that closer is Mo Rivera, who is the greatest postseason pitcher of all time. And if all closers were as valuable as Rivera, then closers wouldn't be overrated. He truly is unique.
That's the key. I remember when people were jizzing over Papelbon "being the next Mo". There is no other. Nobody is as consistent or dominant. A few will pop up here and there and they might kick arse and take names for a season or two but they always fall off soon after.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:35 am to Srbtiger06
Exactly.
Domination + Length = GOAT
No one really close to him (though that's an overused message board saying).
Domination + Length = GOAT
No one really close to him (though that's an overused message board saying).
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:42 am to OBUDan
quote:
No one really close to him (though that's an overused message board saying).
Probably the only time I can ever remember agreeing with that saying.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:20 am to Srbtiger06
Since 2005 he leads all closers in 1+ inning saves and as of 2009 he had 110 2 inning saves in his career
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:25 am to OBUDan
Let's put it like this. I think the only other great pure one-inning closer is Trevor Hoffman. And he's not even on the same planet as Mo.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:27 am to tduecen
Here's a guy who made John Wetteland, another one of the greatest closers of all time, expendable immediately after Wetteland recorded a save in all four of the Yankees' WS wins in 1996.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:27 am to Baloo
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Turns out that Hoffman, despite having 571 career saves, has only 55 saves of more than 1 inning. The last came in 2004 and he has only 3 such saves since 2001. So I guess he really does not get used in such situations very much.
9 reason Mo is GOAT
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:29 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:30 am to Baloo
I think Kimbrel and Chapman have the stuff to be dominant for years.
But longevity remains to be seen.
But longevity remains to be seen.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:34 am to OBUDan
But how many idiots will not vote for him on the first Hall of Fame ballot?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:36 am to OBUDan
Im so thankful i got to see him pitch in person probably over 20 times. I'd love it if jeter retired this year too and they went into the hall together. I'd be there for sure for the induction.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:55 am to Roughneck
Did they mention he's coming off of an injury? Rivera is so clutch.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:57 am to rutiger
Pettite, Jeter, and Mo all go out this year.... Would be fitting those 3 to go out together even though Posada isn't on team to catch final pitch from Mo/Andy
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