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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:36 pm to


How are the picks graded as in what makes it A vs elite?

Prob and edge seem inconsistent across all grades.

This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 9:37 pm
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:39 pm to
Page 2 second post should help understand the tier grading thresholds
Posted by Zzyzx
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:04 pm to
Site don’t work
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:59 am to
The site is down.
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:21 am to
Site is back up, thats my fault I crashed it late last night trying to get picks to auto update with spread movements.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Either way, it's a strong pick. The -5.5 line is objectively better for betting, even if it drops below the Tier A threshold.

You're going to have to explain this one again because it makes no sense at face value. The line gets better, but the pick gets worse (lower tier)?
Only way this makes sense is if your algorithm is only looking at lines and nothing else i.e a home fav un this situation is more like to cover when THE LINE is -6.5 than when it is 5.5.
Which, you have to admit is not logical.
Probably an area of improvement
Posted by LSURoss
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:26 am to
Nice. BTW I wasn't trying to come off like my free chatgpt prompts were better.

Ill post my slips in a bit from your site!
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29573 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:00 am to
quote:

Only way this makes sense is if your algorithm is only looking at lines and nothing else i.e a home fav un this situation is more like to cover when THE LINE is -6.5 than when it is 5.5.



I completely agree with what your saying. I"m not sure what he's doing in detail with how tier A and B are selected, but I can see where -6.5 at -110 is the preferred bet over -5.5 at -150. The value of the bet is likely the reason why in this scenario the difference in Tiers, at least in my opinion to your question. No one wants to make single bets on -140 and -150 too often. You're looking for -120 and better.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:08 am to
Yeah my comment is based on the juice being the same, only the line having moved.
So - 6. 5,-110 vs - 5.5 - 110
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Yes with the correct wording in a prompt


Grok is better than Chatgpt. Grok started kicking out crazy coding but i have it act like an MIT mathematician. But yeah they sometimes post games thatvarent playing

But so far its about 12-6 on the games i have asked about
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:57 am to
I was expecting some AI tool where you can search any matchup & it would give you a pick/rating.

Looks like it’s only about 20 picks
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
268 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:46 am to
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castorinho


Yes it is completely counter-intuitive and I think I just figured out why. The algo takes the opening line value and creates a house probability based on about ~80 data points then compares that to market probability at that moment. So when the line shifts it keeps the house probability the same and recalculates against the market prob which just shifted up when the line went from -6.5 to -5.5. This is an issue I am working to fix now, I am very grateful you found this as it helps explain a few things as it shifted this pick down to tier B because our confidence_score (i.e. edge) is calculated from that diff. in house vs. market. The good news is you found an exploitable bug and changing my thresholds to capture this improved the win rate 5 points because it shifted 8 games from 2024 & 2025 seasons into tier A that went 8-0. Send me your email address and I will set up a free account for you as a thank you.

Also taking a look at another option to shift house prob with lines but still running backtest on that before I can deploy.
Posted by LSUTIGERS74
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
268 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:49 am to
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JimTiger72


This AI tooling is in the works but haven't gotten that far down the development path on add-ons. For now the algo takes all the games for the week in an initial run and creates a set of data for the full set, then my weekly pick generator tosses out games that have poor probability and edge (weeding out), then it takes the remainder of games that have a decent set up and grades them. That is why there is only 21 games even considered for a pick out of the ~52 games this week.
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13798 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:59 am to
Can you explain "edge" to me?
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