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re: Sounds like Brooks Koepka is joining LIV

Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:19 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:19 am to
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It’s for the top 50 players


Of the completely made up FedEx Cup.

I don't think you understand math by your incessant nonsense about world ranking points
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111441 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to
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Of the completely made up FedEx Cup. I don't think you understand math by your incessant nonsense about world ranking points
You can be mad as a supporter of LIV, but OWGR and FedEx points matter
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to
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Likely so.


So the "no cut" argument is out the door.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111441 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:21 am to
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So the "no cut" argument is out the door.
Not really. A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:21 am to
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but OWGR


Yes

quote:

FedEx points matter


Not really, other than the bonus payout. I couldn't care less about the Fedex Cup.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:22 am to
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If the Saudis want to come take over the pga tour and run it how it was before and simply make the purses higher, I would be just fine


Looks to me like they are doing just fine where they are standing.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:22 am to
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no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play



It's actually not, that's what the math is for
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:23 am to
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A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play



Your are talking about the events here, not whether there is a cut or not.

Again, no cut is out the door as an argument.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111441 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:24 am to
It is different though. You can say it shouldn’t matter, but it’s just basic fact it’s different

One tournament requires you to meet a qualification standard to get into the tournament based on results

One tournament doesn’t

That’s a difference. You can’t argue otherwise
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73467 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:25 am to
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Of the completely made up FedEx Cup.

Isn't any ranking system that isn't solely wins/losses made up? At the end of the day, in golf, where there is only one winner of each tournament with ~150 players per tournament, there is going to be some sort of "made up" ranking system, whether that be OWGR, FedEx Cup points, money lists, DPWTR points, etc. For instance, LIV's model is trying to have the best golfers in the world play showcase tournaments around the world for huge purses. How do they determine who these best golfers are? By a made up ranking system or some other way?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:26 am to
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It is different though. You can say it shouldn’t matter, but it’s just basic fact it’s different

One tournament requires you to meet a qualification standard to get into the tournament based on results

One tournament doesn’t

That’s a difference. You can’t argue otherwise


Ok, but it's not different when you are handing out world ranking points, which is what you were originally talking about.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:26 am to
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Not really. A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play


Sad that you are stuck on "qualification standards" vs "invitational field". OWGR pts will be awarded based on strength of field & LIV now has 8 of the top 50 players playing in a 48 man field? The stronger the field, the more likely OWGR pts will be awarded.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:27 am to
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Isn't any ranking system that isn't solely wins/losses made up?


Yes, but the Fedex Cup exists for the sole reason to give players bonus money and advertise for FedEx.

The OWGR is an objective metric used for qualifying into tournaments and actually ranking the players.

If you want to get meta, everything is made up. Money, morals, norms, etc
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111441 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:27 am to
If the OWGR wanted to, they absolutely could find a way to award points to LIV events

But if they choose not to, they have an easy out to point to why they are choosing not to.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to
And those players will be playing in every event.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111441 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to
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The OWGR is an objective metric
And why isn’t the FedEx standings objective?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to
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But if they choose not to, they have an easy out to point to why they are choosing not to.


Do they? I don't think "we don't like them and are butthurt they are taking our players" is an easy out
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:29 am to
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And why isn’t the FedEx standings objective?



It gives the winner of every nonelevated status event the same amount of points to the winner. Pretty simple.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:29 am to
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Likely so. It’s for the top 50 players based on the previous years standings.

You argued a lot that a 54 hole tourney shouldn't get points.

To confirm, we're unchecking that box now?
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:30 am to
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Do they? I don't think "we don't like them and are butthurt they are taking our players" is an easy out


Yep. That sounds like what the European Tour could be saying about the PGA Tour.
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