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re: Sounds like Brooks Koepka is joining LIV
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:19 am to lsupride87
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:19 am to lsupride87
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It’s for the top 50 players
Of the completely made up FedEx Cup.
I don't think you understand math by your incessant nonsense about world ranking points
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:You can be mad as a supporter of LIV, but OWGR and FedEx points matter
Of the completely made up FedEx Cup. I don't think you understand math by your incessant nonsense about world ranking points
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
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Likely so.
So the "no cut" argument is out the door.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:21 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:Not really. A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play
So the "no cut" argument is out the door.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:21 am to lsupride87
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but OWGR
Yes
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FedEx points matter
Not really, other than the bonus payout. I couldn't care less about the Fedex Cup.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
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If the Saudis want to come take over the pga tour and run it how it was before and simply make the purses higher, I would be just fine
Looks to me like they are doing just fine where they are standing.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
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no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play
It's actually not, that's what the math is for
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:23 am to lsupride87
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A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play
Your are talking about the events here, not whether there is a cut or not.
Again, no cut is out the door as an argument.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:24 am to Mingo Was His NameO
It is different though. You can say it shouldn’t matter, but it’s just basic fact it’s different
One tournament requires you to meet a qualification standard to get into the tournament based on results
One tournament doesn’t
That’s a difference. You can’t argue otherwise
One tournament requires you to meet a qualification standard to get into the tournament based on results
One tournament doesn’t
That’s a difference. You can’t argue otherwise
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:25 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Of the completely made up FedEx Cup.
Isn't any ranking system that isn't solely wins/losses made up? At the end of the day, in golf, where there is only one winner of each tournament with ~150 players per tournament, there is going to be some sort of "made up" ranking system, whether that be OWGR, FedEx Cup points, money lists, DPWTR points, etc. For instance, LIV's model is trying to have the best golfers in the world play showcase tournaments around the world for huge purses. How do they determine who these best golfers are? By a made up ranking system or some other way?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:26 am to lsupride87
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It is different though. You can say it shouldn’t matter, but it’s just basic fact it’s different
One tournament requires you to meet a qualification standard to get into the tournament based on results
One tournament doesn’t
That’s a difference. You can’t argue otherwise
Ok, but it's not different when you are handing out world ranking points, which is what you were originally talking about.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:26 am to lsupride87
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Not really. A no cut event based on qualification standards is different than an entire No cut tour based on simple invitations to play
Sad that you are stuck on "qualification standards" vs "invitational field". OWGR pts will be awarded based on strength of field & LIV now has 8 of the top 50 players playing in a 48 man field? The stronger the field, the more likely OWGR pts will be awarded.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:27 am to lsufball19
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Isn't any ranking system that isn't solely wins/losses made up?
Yes, but the Fedex Cup exists for the sole reason to give players bonus money and advertise for FedEx.
The OWGR is an objective metric used for qualifying into tournaments and actually ranking the players.
If you want to get meta, everything is made up. Money, morals, norms, etc
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:27 am to lsufb1912
If the OWGR wanted to, they absolutely could find a way to award points to LIV events
But if they choose not to, they have an easy out to point to why they are choosing not to.
But if they choose not to, they have an easy out to point to why they are choosing not to.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to lsufb1912
And those players will be playing in every event.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:And why isn’t the FedEx standings objective?
The OWGR is an objective metric
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:28 am to lsupride87
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But if they choose not to, they have an easy out to point to why they are choosing not to.
Do they? I don't think "we don't like them and are butthurt they are taking our players" is an easy out
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:29 am to lsupride87
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And why isn’t the FedEx standings objective?
It gives the winner of every nonelevated status event the same amount of points to the winner. Pretty simple.
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:29 am to lsupride87
quote:You argued a lot that a 54 hole tourney shouldn't get points.
Likely so. It’s for the top 50 players based on the previous years standings.
To confirm, we're unchecking that box now?
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:30 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Do they? I don't think "we don't like them and are butthurt they are taking our players" is an easy out
Yep. That sounds like what the European Tour could be saying about the PGA Tour.
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