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re: So You Want A College Football Playoff?
Posted on 10/19/10 at 8:39 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 10/19/10 at 8:39 am to H-Town Tiger
i just don't see the advantage
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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i just don't see the advantage
sorry, I didn't realize you would be making up the schedules.
some would say it helps get ready for the playoffs (Tom Izzo has used this arguement for monster Dec OOC schedules). Others just for the $$. I don't see where it'd be any different that it is now, some teams play decent OOC games and otehrs don't.
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 8:44 am
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:19 am to chilge1
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A playoff system will kill the regular season... and the loss of revenue there will more than offset any monetary loss suffered by a shitty championship game.
bullshite. Again I say bullshite. How in the world would it diminish the regular season? Have you been listening to too much talk radio?
Arkansas currently has two losses and is completely out of the National Championship race. Currently are their games anymore or less exciting because of that? Are their fans not going to attend, cheer, and support them the rest of the season? Hell no.
BUT, if there was a playoff they would have even more to play for right now, thereby making the rest of their regular season games MORE exciting.
A playoff can only make the regular season more exciting. The undefeated teams are positioning for home field advantage (or what ever incentive they might receive) and the 1-2 loss teams are fighting each other for the remaining playoff spots.
If an undefeated LSU plays an undefeated USCe in the SEC championship and there is a playoff system, do you actually think that game will be less exciting? Both teams want to remain undefeated, win the SEC, and get the incentive for being undefeated.
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 9:21 am
Posted on 10/19/10 at 9:32 am to SaltyTiger53
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NFL has a playoff system.
I guess none of y'all watched the saints
Sunday since there's a playoff system that "killed the regular season"!
I either watch or go to all Saints and LSU games, but Hartley's shank vs Atlanta or losing to a undrafted rookie QB in his first start didn't bother me as much as an LSU loss would have because it's early in the season and the Saints can still make the playoffs. Regular season college games mean more (to me) than regular season NFL games.
And don't forget the end of last season when the Saints were resting starters, those games meant nothing.
College football has been around longer than any of us and has never had a playoff, and IMO that's one of the things that makes it great. The information age and new generation of fan that are only concerned with a "national championship" just don't get it, IMO.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:25 pm to H-Town Tiger
This is what I was trying to say.
The Giants were the Super Bowl champions that year. Kudos to them!
The Patriots were the best team that year.
The current BCS, flaws and all, is the best formula of any major sport in choosing the 'best team' over the course of a year. Every other system chooses the winner of a tournament played among good teams. While that is not necessarily bad, it is not the same thing as being the best team over the course of the year.
The Giants were the Super Bowl champions that year. Kudos to them!
The Patriots were the best team that year.
The current BCS, flaws and all, is the best formula of any major sport in choosing the 'best team' over the course of a year. Every other system chooses the winner of a tournament played among good teams. While that is not necessarily bad, it is not the same thing as being the best team over the course of the year.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:36 pm to yallallcrazy
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The current BCS, flaws and all, is the best formula of any major sport in choosing the 'best team' over the course of a year.
No, baseball has the best formula. They only have four teams make it in each league. A team has to play at a high level for 162 games so it washes away all the pretenders. Now, the postseason is a crapshoot but except in rare cases ('87 Twins and '06 Cardinals), a very good, deserving team that played solid baseball in the regular season will win the championship.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:39 pm to geauxbrown
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see a Boise State or TCU not only make it to the BCSCG but win the entire thing
ummm only way one of those teams WINS it is if they play each other.
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The television ratings will stink to high heaven
doubtful
FWIW I like the way it is now. The regular season matters more than any other sport at this point, no playoff for me
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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not every game matters. OOC games would mean absolutely nothing, and nobody would schedule any worth a shite
Just add more conference games. 10 conf games, 2 OOC games.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:48 pm to Bench McElroy
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No, baseball has the best formula.
MLB was even better before they added the Wild Card. 2 division winners in each league, 4 teams total. In 1993 the Giants won over 100 games and didn't make the playoffs. The 2nd half battle with team and Atlanta was way more exciting than any 5 game WC series could ever hope to be.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:48 pm to yallallcrazy
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The current BCS, flaws and all, is the best formula of any major sport in choosing the 'best team' over the course of a year
Incredible. Truly unbelievable.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 12:51 pm to EWE TIGER
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The information age and new generation of fan that are only concerned with a "national championship" just don't get it, IMO.
so you want to uninvent the internet
Posted on 10/19/10 at 1:16 pm to nwaLSUfan
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a playoff wouldnt kill the regular season, make homefield advantage an incentive. Can you imagine 06 LSU with home field advantage
^This. With playoffs we might get to one day see an all-SEC National Championship game.
I'm still laughing at the idea of that Ohio State-Michigan rematch Herbie and the national media tried to bully the BCS into voting for in 2006...only to watch both teams get creamed.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 1:19 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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I'm still laughing at the idea of that Ohio State-Michigan rematch Herbie and the national media tried to bully the BCS into voting for in 2006
do you have a link for that or are you just making stuff up since some where the possibility may have been discussed?
Posted on 10/19/10 at 1:21 pm to chalmetteowl
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so you want to uninvent the internet
where did he say that?
How about we just teach people to put things in better perspective and appreciate that championships are special and hard to achieve, and not winning it is not a failure.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 2:25 pm to Trauma14
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Arkansas currently has two losses and is completely out of the National Championship race. Currently are their games anymore or less exciting because of that? Are their fans not going to attend, cheer, and support them the rest of the season? Hell no.
there will be less excitement for them now - tempered by them being improved compared to recent years tho
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BUT, if there was a playoff they would have even more to play for right now,
right now but not as much before
if you lower the stakes of individual games then you end up with less tension and importance
Posted on 10/19/10 at 2:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
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do you have a link for that or are you just making stuff up since some where the possibility may have been discussed?
You seriously aren't asking me that question, are you? You're telling me you actually missed seeing Herbstreit and Flutie asking voters on the air to vote for a tOSU-UM rematch in the title game? Really?
Posted on 10/19/10 at 3:28 pm to EWE TIGER
I think most of the arguments on here about the potential dilution of the regular season are missing the mark with the comparisons to other sports. In the NFL 12 out of 32 teams make the playoffs, in college basketball 6+ teams from the same conference can make the tournament. Here, we are talking about 8 teams out of 120 (or really 6-7 teams out of the "big 6" conferences with 1-2 from the rest). If you have two losses then you would need help and a good ranking to get in, and even last year a team with one loss does not automatically make the top 8.
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/19/10 at 3:34 pm to Juris Dawg
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I think most of the arguments on here about the potential dilution of the regular season are missing the mark with the comparisons to other sports.
in most sports the playoffs are the money shot
in college basketball the regular season is close to irrelevant and rarely watched - people only tune in for march madness
in college football the regular season is the money making monster - for the giants of football they rake in the money in games 1-12 (or 13)... the bowl game is only a small fraction of the profit and fan interest
Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:39 pm to Bench McElroy
True enough. And if we could have an NCAA playoff with teams playing best of 7 or even best of 3, my opinion would be different.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 4:44 pm to AUTigLN11
Hey, I said it ain't perfect.
But, you tell me--- was Butler the second best basketball program in the NCAA a couple of years ago? If they played any other team 10 times, would they win >5 from all but Duke?
Doubtful, I'd say. And, while I love March Madness because of stories like Butler, I'll be the first to say that the winner is not necessarily the best team--- or even all that close.
it would be hard to argue that the BCS champ each year isn't at least one of the the top 2 or 3 teams.
But, you tell me--- was Butler the second best basketball program in the NCAA a couple of years ago? If they played any other team 10 times, would they win >5 from all but Duke?
Doubtful, I'd say. And, while I love March Madness because of stories like Butler, I'll be the first to say that the winner is not necessarily the best team--- or even all that close.
it would be hard to argue that the BCS champ each year isn't at least one of the the top 2 or 3 teams.
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