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re: Snell of Tampa Bay will not play for a paltry $5 million this year
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:20 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:20 pm to WestCoastAg
Why do we continue to shite on leagues when this happens in every segment of the business. I will say that baseball, football, basketball, hockey, and soccer players are probably paid better than most employees from billion dollar corporations.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 7:21 pm
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:25 pm to tduecen
In what other business do people blame the employee when stuff like this rises?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:27 pm to Adam Banks
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While I get it players like snell come off as massive pricks here.
Even if you don’t like the owners position their position and profit isn’t what makes the headlines. It’s a player complaining about making millions to play a game in the midst of fans losing their jobs and livelihoods
Players are kinda in a no win situation other than putting a smile on and build goodwill.
"We as a group feel like there needs to be a few changes in the owners proposal, and hopefully we will be able to hammer out an agreement when we are able to meet with the owners face to face."
He says that, no one bats an eye. Hell, a statement like that might get them a little sympathy.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:29 pm to WestCoastAg
Every employee blames their employer, you don't think that the cashier at the supermarket is bitching about not getting paid enough. Grocery stores or taking in, they could offer a little raise or bonus right now to appease these individuals and still make more than what they Normally do.
MLB players help make the product but these owners made their millions in other business ventures. Many could walk away from their teams and still be multi-millionaires or better.
In reality the players I can see bitching if the owners are asking to forgo 70+% of their salary. But if owners are really asking for only 50% like some reports then the players look like the bad guys here.
Plus the owners aren't the ones talking, players bitching about their millions Garner's no sympathy fr the every day man making a few hundred a week.
MLB players help make the product but these owners made their millions in other business ventures. Many could walk away from their teams and still be multi-millionaires or better.
In reality the players I can see bitching if the owners are asking to forgo 70+% of their salary. But if owners are really asking for only 50% like some reports then the players look like the bad guys here.
Plus the owners aren't the ones talking, players bitching about their millions Garner's no sympathy fr the every day man making a few hundred a week.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:31 pm to tduecen
quote:and people are usually sympathetic to that cashier in the face of a billion dollar corporation
Every employee blames their employer, you don't think that the cashier at the supermarket is bitching about not getting paid enough.
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In reality the players I can see bitching if the owners are asking to forgo 70+% of their salary. But if owners are really asking for only 50% like some reports then the players look like the bad guys here
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:45 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:. What? I don't think I've seen this ever before, in fact what I've seen is people say being cashier is a high school job not a career.
people are usually sympathetic to that cashier in the face of a billion dollar corporation
Also, yes I know you side with the players but what about the second part do you disagree with? That players bitching about 50% look like the bad guys?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:48 pm to tduecen
quote:you are right. The American people largely side with big business when it comes to labor issues. That's why so little has been achieved throughout our history in regards to labor laws
What? I don't think I've seen this ever before, in fact what I've seen is people say being cashier is a high school job not a career.
quote:the owners look pretty bad in using this so they can pay their players less on a per game basis
That players bitching about 50% look like the bad guys
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:50 pm to AHM21
quote:Don't talk about Obama like that.
The irony in this quote when those who like spewing this shite love sucking off a billionaire President who would likely never have anything to do with them in open public is pretty rich.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:50 pm to tduecen
quote:The players already agreed to a prorated compensation based on games played. The owners are now the ones trying to change the pay structure to take more than that away.
Also, yes I know you side with the players but what about the second part do you disagree with? That players bitching about 50% look like the bad guys?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:56 pm to WestCoastAg
You are reaching here.....
quote:you are looking at history. Considering a lot did not start changing until the industrial revolution and look at today as companies like WalMart continue to make billions and the employees get minimum wage or close to it.
you are right. The American people largely side with big business when it comes to labor issues. That's why so little has been achieved throughout our history in regards to labor laws
quote:play half the games, get half the salary, of that becomes the proposal then the players are the ones who look bad.
the owners look pretty bad in using this so they can pay their players less on a per game basis
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:58 pm to Louie T
That's the way it will be, owners are wanting to pay less because attendance is going to be impacted but they will end up caving on that aspect.
Especially if they want the season to start on time
Especially if they want the season to start on time
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:58 pm to tduecen
quote:and that isnt the proposal that the players are rejecting. If the players reject prorated salaries then fine, they are in the wrong. But let me know when that happens considering they already agreed to play with prorated salaries
play half the games, get half the salary, of that becomes the proposal then the players are the ones who look bad.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:01 pm to tduecen
You keep saying the players need to accept half of their salaries or they look like assholes. They’ve already accepted that, so idk why you keep referencing that they need to accept half of their salaries.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:05 pm to SHOtime Tiger
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Fund?! Sports teams in America don’t typically lose money. They fund themselves.
They have significant operating costs and it takes a billionaire to provide that start up funding. Hence why they are owned by the richest of the rich.
As evidence can you point to me a single player owned team?
They are free to barnstorm (As your opinion that their talents have inherent million dollar value) and make their millions. Doubt they do though. Fans pay for the experience. Are they the primary sources of that absolutely. Could they fund and train themselves arrange stadium revenue and still make their equivalent salaries absolutely not.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:08 pm to Adam Banks
Did y'all know that Snell is Jamie Kennedy from Malibu's Most Wanted?
I did not expect that voice?
I did not expect that voice?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:09 pm to WestCoastAg
I've addressed that, you've responded to that, we've moved on from that, hence my comment.... It's like you are purposely being ignorant here
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:10 pm to Louie T
I've also stated several times then it is on the owners, I've actually agreed with the players if it is just 50% of the salary and if the owners want additional withheld then they shouldn't..... It is like you are only reading what you want to read
Here let me help you
Here let me help you
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Also, yes I know you side with the players but what about the second part do you disagree with? That players bitching about 50% look like the bad guys?
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play half the games, get half the salary, of that becomes the proposal then the players are the ones who look bad.
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Louie T
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That's the way it will be, owners are wanting to pay less because attendance is going to be impacted but they will end up caving on that aspect
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:12 pm to WestCoastAg
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eject prorated salaries then fine, they are in the wrong. But let me know when that happens considering they already agreed to play with prorated salaries
I get that. The only thing I can say regarding that is that even at a prorated salary I doubt the owners are making near the revenue that funds said salaries for that amount of games. Likely zero dollars on gate concessions and massive loss in merchandise sales over 80 or so games likely not offset by less staff to pay (ticket workers etc)
Once again I get the players argument in that they are agreeing to things outside of the normal purview. I just think it’s still a PR loser for them given that the stories are always written like this. Snell complains about making 3 million rather than 5 million. There’s rarely stories that make it nationally about x ownership group makes y profit instead of z profit because it’s much harder to get those exact numbers
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:13 pm to tduecen
I didn’t read 7 pages, but I responded to something you explicitly stated multiple times. Forgive me if you’re posting conflicting opinions
I won’t pretend the players are blameless, but the “they make more than a Walmart cashier so they should just be grateful to be able to go back to work” sentiment is ludicrous.
I won’t pretend the players are blameless, but the “they make more than a Walmart cashier so they should just be grateful to be able to go back to work” sentiment is ludicrous.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:16 pm to Louie T
I'm not posting conflicting opinions, you are struggling at reading.... I've stated several times if it is 50% great, if the players are bitching about 50% then screw them.
Everything I quoted was from this page
Everything I quoted was from this page
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