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re: Should “specialists” get into major HOFs?
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:34 pm to nosaj
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:34 pm to nosaj
Should they?
Yes, if they are generational talents at that position.
The NFL HOF has a small number of specialists inducted, mainly limited to punter Ray Guy and placekicker Morten Andersen IIRC.
Guy is considered the best punter in history. Andersen was so good for so long that he has the record for length of career and points scored IIRC.
By those standards, Hester should get in as a returner. But he's behind the eight ball because of how the NFL HOF is structured with a certain number of inductees each year and it being tilted toward glory positions (QB, RB, etc.) over everyone else.
Should Hester get in before Eli Manning? Unquestionably yes, IMHO. But it won't happen because Eli won two Super Bowls for a blueblood franchise in a major media marketplace.
From an NBA perspective? No, but that's kind of irrelevant because the basketball HOF covers all levels and not just the pros.
Yes, if they are generational talents at that position.
The NFL HOF has a small number of specialists inducted, mainly limited to punter Ray Guy and placekicker Morten Andersen IIRC.
Guy is considered the best punter in history. Andersen was so good for so long that he has the record for length of career and points scored IIRC.
By those standards, Hester should get in as a returner. But he's behind the eight ball because of how the NFL HOF is structured with a certain number of inductees each year and it being tilted toward glory positions (QB, RB, etc.) over everyone else.
Should Hester get in before Eli Manning? Unquestionably yes, IMHO. But it won't happen because Eli won two Super Bowls for a blueblood franchise in a major media marketplace.
From an NBA perspective? No, but that's kind of irrelevant because the basketball HOF covers all levels and not just the pros.
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:34 pm to Melvin
quote:If basketball is about scoring points then you shouldn’t want Korver in the HoF
Basketball is about scoring points. I have no problem with Korver getting in
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:35 pm to nosaj
quote:
And by specialists, I mean guys that were one of the absolute best at a specific thing within their sport.
Like a Knuckleballer? Of does that not count because he is a pitcher. I just immediately thought of this guy HOF class of 97
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:56 pm to lsutigers1992
If they ever let Steve Tasker in then that’ll open up the flood gates a bit with guys like Hester
Posted on 8/13/21 at 2:49 pm to wildtigercat93
Steve Tasker
7x Pro Bowler
7x First Team All Pro
204 Special Teams tackles
7 blocked punts (+1 in SB)
Pro Bowl MVP
Think he should be in for sure
7x Pro Bowler
7x First Team All Pro
204 Special Teams tackles
7 blocked punts (+1 in SB)
Pro Bowl MVP
Think he should be in for sure
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:38 pm to nosaj
If so, then Jose Oquendo has to be a lock.
Sincerely,
Randy Sklar and Jason Sklar
Sincerely,
Randy Sklar and Jason Sklar
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:54 pm to nosaj
Only if you are the VERY best. But when someone comes long better, they take your place and no longer in HOF.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:02 pm to kciDAtaE
Brian Mitchell >>>>>>>>>>> Devon Hester all day long…..
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:03 pm to nosaj
I don't think Hester will get in.
Hester is tied for 70th in kick return average at 24.9 He doesn't rank in the top eight for kick return touchdowns. He only had five. Cordarrelle Patterson is the active leader with 8.
Hester is tied for 70th in kick return average at 24.9 He doesn't rank in the top eight for kick return touchdowns. He only had five. Cordarrelle Patterson is the active leader with 8.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:35 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:
Hester is tied for 70th in kick return average at 24.9 He doesn't rank in the top eight for kick return touchdowns. He only had five. Cordarrelle Patterson is the active leader with 8.
I’m not arguing for Hester in the HOF here but why would you exclude his 14 Punt return TDs
Posted on 8/13/21 at 4:59 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
The equivalent in baseball is definitely a reliever and the very elite guys have gotten in
Yea. When I hear "specialist" in baseball, I think of some spare lefty in the bullpen brought in to throw to a LH batter in the 8th inning.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 5:04 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
Lechler, and he won't get in early
Feel like he should be in for sure but obviously biased.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 6:31 pm to TigerintheNO
Gale Sayers averaged 31 yards per KO return, IIRC.
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