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re: Should college athelets get paid: the rants perspective
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:39 pm to jacks40
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:39 pm to jacks40
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For the 3 year rule sure, but NFL has very little to do with NCAA and schools selling jerseys, and video games.
Even if the NFL allowed immediate entry out of HS that doesn't mean the NCAA wouldn't profit off athletes. These are not the same arguments
It would give the players a choice that they currently don't have. I think an 18 year old should be able to consent themselves to be allowed to play in the NFL.
It really is kinda the same argument imo. It gives the players wage earning potential, or the ability to hone their skills and get an education.
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Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:40 pm to filmmaker45
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Likenesses or not
You do understand the concept of a player's name OR likeness, correct?
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No it's not. It's QB #15. You can name him Tim Tebow if you want, or you can name him Matt Ryan or Roger Staubach or who the hell else knows.
How is this NOT Tebow's likeness?
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:41 pm to KosmoCramer
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If anything you should be blaming the NFL not the NCAA.
I'm just fricking around playing devil's advocate for the most part. I don't want schools paying players, but I think it's dumb to act like they're purely amateurs. I also think it's unfair for the NCAA to make billions in tv deals for basketball and football and the players to get dick from that. All of the benefits you guys keep bringing up are school specific.
I'm also fine with players being able to leave school whenever, especially with coaches bouncing around with no repercussions.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:41 pm to The Easter Bunny
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That's why I said knee
ETA: Think Stafon Johnson
Johnson didn't hurt his knee either fwiw
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:42 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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It didn't say Tebow on the back though did it ...
Name OR likeness.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:43 pm to KosmoCramer
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Johnson didn't hurt his knee either fwiw
yeah, I was just thinking someone who wouldn't have suffered that exact injury in the NFL
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:44 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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I agree about Tebow but he's also the exception to the rule. An entity won't and shouldn't make rules based on the exception.
That's fine. I'm not saying to make rules based on the exception. I started off saying I wouldn't pay players. My point is that to believe that ALL players are getting equal value so they should take what ever the NCAA gives them is wrong. Some have arguments to the contrary.
And not just Tebow.
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And at the same token, i think Florida football prepared him well enough to be drafted highly and make millions. Sounds like Florida paid him back to me ...
So some NFL team drafting Tebow has what to do with the UF? What may or may not happen in the future of player has nothing to do with their value to the University while attending.
If a guy like Jason White who won a Heisman and got his team to the NC game doesn't get drafted or make a NFL team, does that mean he gets a refund of some sort from OU?
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:45 pm to KosmoCramer
These athletes can always put their talents on the open market right out of highschool.
The basketball players can go to Europe.
I guess the football players can go play arena football I guess.
These player problems really have nothing to do with the NCAA or universities.
If the players want to be mad at someone they should be mad at the NBA and NFL.
The basketball players can go to Europe.
I guess the football players can go play arena football I guess.
These player problems really have nothing to do with the NCAA or universities.
If the players want to be mad at someone they should be mad at the NBA and NFL.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:46 pm to Colonel Flagg
I agree with you fwiw.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:46 pm to The Easter Bunny
The only way I would approve paying players was if they were forced to graduate and complete their eligibility first. This would probably be abused in some way, though.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:47 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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You were talking about the exceptional athlete.
I was but you and the poster you were replying to when you made that comment were not.
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Surely a middle of the road athlete doesn't deserve anything more than the scholarship money and benefits ... i think you'd agree on that.
In most cases yes, but I would feel better about it if there was more of a guarantee for players beyond the 1 year scholarships they get and have to earn based on "subjective" decisions by coaches who may not have recruited them or are trying to make roster room for their new incoming class.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:48 pm to KingofthePoint
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The only way I would approve paying players was if they were forced to graduate and complete their eligibility first. This would probably be abused in some way, though.
schools don't force academic scholarship students to graduate or pay back the money, do they?
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:49 pm to jacks40
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So some NFL team drafting Tebow has what to do with the UF? What may or may not happen in the future of player has nothing to do with their value to the University while attending.
If a guy like Jason White who won a Heisman and got his team to the NC game doesn't get drafted or make a NFL team, does that mean he gets a refund of some sort from OU?
I have a response for this but it would be long so im just gonna say good point and goodnight all.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:49 pm to Colonel Flagg
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These player problems really have nothing to do with the NCAA or universities.
false. Not getting into the NFL/NBA out of HS is a problem that has nothing to do with the NCAA/schools.
Misappropriating the likesness of players without proper compensation, if any is due, is a problem for the NCAA. The 2 or 3 class action lawsuits that are pending against them are proof of that.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:52 pm to KosmoCramer
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It would give the players a choice that they currently don't have. I think an 18 year old should be able to consent themselves to be allowed to play in the NFL.
yes it would and I agree that they should have the choice, but that and the value of a college football player to his school and what equates appropriate compensation for that value are 2 different arguments.
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:55 pm to jacks40
I really think it would end the issue because they could earn wages, or they could go to school.
Yes there will be the issue of EA using their likeness, but the only thing that would happen would be EA not using anything related to players in the NCAA games.
As far as income earning from TV contracts etc. the players know what they are signing up for when the go to school, just the same as working at a job making $10 and the CEO makes millions. No difference imo.
Yes there will be the issue of EA using their likeness, but the only thing that would happen would be EA not using anything related to players in the NCAA games.
As far as income earning from TV contracts etc. the players know what they are signing up for when the go to school, just the same as working at a job making $10 and the CEO makes millions. No difference imo.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:01 am to jacks40
Sure, college athletes make the university money. No argument here. But so do regular students.
Do you think Chevron/Shell/etc... Would donte millions to LSU if they weren't putting out quality engineers, geologists, and businessmen?
Do you think Chevron/Shell/etc... Would donte millions to LSU if they weren't putting out quality engineers, geologists, and businessmen?
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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allow players to endorse products and sign deals with marketing people who aren't related to the university without risking eligibility
This.
Universities do not need to pay athletes when only a few ADs even break even each year.
Posted on 3/31/11 at 12:32 am to Teddy Ruxpin
I haven't read any of this thread, and I'm sure what I'm about to say has been said, but if an athlete gets a full ride scholarship to a university for a FREE education, that imo is more than enough payment for playing. The focus of attending a university SHOULD be an education, and if they're getting theirs for free and playin sports at the same time, they arent owed anything.
However, I wouldn't mind if college athletes got "paid" a yearly amount from the athletic department, with which they could do whatever they pleased, and did away with scholarships. Save those scholarships for the students who go to earn a degree.
However, I wouldn't mind if college athletes got "paid" a yearly amount from the athletic department, with which they could do whatever they pleased, and did away with scholarships. Save those scholarships for the students who go to earn a degree.
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