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re: Should college athelets get paid: the rants perspective

Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50019 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:05 pm to
Hell no!

The get free tuition, meal plan, money for books, pay nothing at bars, etc....
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23494 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:06 pm to
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Try making a NFL game doing the same thing using actual NFL players likeness and see how fast you get sued


The players are part of a company (NFL) it isn't the same thing. Why would they sue?

Does EA even pay the NCAA for anything dealing with the players?

Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:09 pm to
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Likenesses or not it's the name that matters


false

You can misappropriate the image of someone wout the name
Posted by ATLwreck
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
5558 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:10 pm to
I think they should be paid in condoms. It seems like all of them have a kid. Which is the excuse they use when they leave early for the draft.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5919 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:11 pm to
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It's unreasonable to ask some dirt poor black kid who needs to provide for his family right away to not get paid anything until after his third year in college.
Life is full of choices, sometimes difficult ones. A student who wants to be a professional athlete has a choice of going to college (and getting an education and showing what he can do at the next level) or foregoing that to provide for his family in the short term by getting a job right out of highschool. Every student with financial difficulties has to make similar choices when the student considers college.
This post was edited on 3/30/11 at 11:13 pm
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:11 pm to
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The players are part of a company (NFL) it isn't the same thing. Why would they sue?


The names of the players is allowed through a deal with the NFLPA, not the NFL.

They wouldn't sue EA bc they have a deal, my point was if a competing company made a video game and simply used the likeness of players bc EA has exclusive rights then the NFLPA would sue that compnay

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Does EA even pay the NCAA for anything dealing with the players?


The O'bannon lawsuit will find out, and if the NCAA/EA deal mentions anything about player likenesses then bad news for both
This post was edited on 3/30/11 at 11:14 pm
Posted by LSUfootball222
Member since Oct 2009
1167 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:16 pm to
HELL NO

they are COLLEGE athletes, not pros

what would be the point of pros?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69315 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:16 pm to
People that want college athletes to be paid are dumb.

You have kids out there taking out loans and leaving college with $50,000 worth of debt ... yet every single kid on an athletic scholarship leaves the university with no debt and a scholarship where they are free to make money in the real world. (assuming they don't drop out)

Sounds like college athletes are getting paid to me. Not to mention the benefits they have over other students while in college ...
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80559 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:19 pm to
A link was posted on here that the average student on athletic scholarship gets roughly $120,000 in benefits annually.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:20 pm to
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Sounds like college athletes are getting paid to me


Not always in equal ratios to what they make the university.

Payinf players is a pie in the sky logistical nightmare, that will never happen and probably shouldn't for many reasons but to argue that NONE of the players deserve more than just college tuition is disingenuous IMO
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:21 pm to
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College players on a full scholarship get plenty of benefits that not even regular students get.






Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69315 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:21 pm to
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Not always in equal ratios to what they make the university.


I don't think the guy selling iPods at the apple store makes as much as Steve Jobs either ...
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:22 pm to
I think rules dictating players selling their own property is retarded.

I also don't really care about money handshakes. We all know it happens and it's a victimless crime.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69315 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:22 pm to
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NONE of the players deserve more than just college tuition is disingenuous IMO


If the player is that good, and deserves money like you hint at ... then they will make it in the NFL, NBA, etc ...
Posted by GAMErebelCOCK
Oxford, MS
Member since Sep 2010
560 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:22 pm to
NO!

Some athletes abuse the priviledges already. They get free tuition, books, meals, and other stuff that regular students do not. I don't want to imagine what would happen if they got other monetary gifts on the regular. Some of these athletes already embarrass our alma maters enough as it is without getting paid.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5919 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:23 pm to
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Not always in equal ratios to what they make the university.
If that is the test, then the swimmers and volley ball players and golf team (and every team except football) should be paying the school, not the other way around.
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45666 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:23 pm to
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allow players to endorse products and sign deals with marketing people who aren't related to the university without risking eligibility


This. Also let them get a cut of the money from video games made from their likeness.

You think people didn't know who the lefthanded QB wearing #15 for Florida was just because it didn't say Tebow on the back?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69315 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:24 pm to
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it didn't say Tebow on the back?


It didn't say Tebow on the back though did it ...
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:25 pm to
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I don't think the guy selling iPods at the apple store makes as much as Steve Jobs either ...



I think the amount of compensation for that person is pretty close to his worth to the company.

I would argue players like Tim Tebow, AJ Green, Andrew Luck etc. their college tuition/compensation alone is not close to the value they have to the University
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80559 posts
Posted on 3/30/11 at 11:25 pm to
As was already posted, what about the player that gets $100,000 to endorse a Car Dealer just because he signed with the school.

That's paying the player to come. It would be rampant, and whoever paid the most, got the players.
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