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Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:13 am to CrippleCreek
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OKC was founded on a deal of fortune 6 years ago that, like this deal for the Mavs and unlike the other deals people are talking about, has an actual basketball player as the cornerstone of the return.
That was the older style trade of a young stud + picks, which the Pelicans did with AD a few months later.
The NBA ran out of the young studs, so they shifted to just picks, which is much more speculative.
Now, this deal fits in neither box, so it will take time to see if this is a precedent or outlier.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:16 am to hg
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It makes zero sense but okay
It does if Luka wanted out…
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:20 am to lepdagod
I just can't wrap my head around a duo of Lebron and Luka and how that might work. Also what the hell are the Lakers going to do at Center / big man? Then you have Luka being out for however long... 
Nothing makes sense today.
Nothing makes sense today.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:22 am to lepdagod
Everyone in Dallas media is floored
Latest is this was all Nico, the Mavs GM. He hasn’t been happy with Luka’s lack of seriousness with staying in shape. He’s at his highest weight at 265 right now and doesn’t do the nutrition plan the Mavs want him to do. He’s showed up the past 3 offseasons to camp 15+ lbs overweight
Cuban and Luka knew nothing and were shocked
All comes down to Nico not wanting to give Luka a super max this offseason
Latest is this was all Nico, the Mavs GM. He hasn’t been happy with Luka’s lack of seriousness with staying in shape. He’s at his highest weight at 265 right now and doesn’t do the nutrition plan the Mavs want him to do. He’s showed up the past 3 offseasons to camp 15+ lbs overweight
Cuban and Luka knew nothing and were shocked
All comes down to Nico not wanting to give Luka a super max this offseason
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:23 am to hg
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It makes zero sense but okay
I’m not arguing whether it makes sense or not I’m just simply stating that they wanted AD and they got him
They didn’t care about any other offer because they wanted AD
It was said the mavs initiated the trade talks, you don’t think Cuban knows he can get damn near anybody in the nba for Luka?
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:23 am to hg
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Nothing makes sense today.
Everything you said valid from a pure basketball perspective… I started viewing this from a marketing perspective 2 hours ago though… people talking about the NBA… All-Star game just became more interesting… Mavs vs Lakers in the playoffs must see tv now
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:24 am to hg
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I just can't wrap my head around a duo of Lebron and Luka and how that might work.
I don't think it's meant to.
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Also what the hell are the Lakers going to do at Center / big man? Then you have Luka being out for however long...
Clearly they don't think they are winning this year. They're rebuilding.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:24 am to lepdagod
Unless they 100% know Luka's calf strain will become a torn achilles in short order it's insane.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s obviously a move to set up LA for the future
They just got their superstar and cornerstone piece for the post LeBron era
Neither team is winning anything this year so this year is irrelevant
Mavs trade is for win now mode but they still aren’t a better team than okc
Lakers were never winning it all this year but just set themselves up for the future
They just got their superstar and cornerstone piece for the post LeBron era
Neither team is winning anything this year so this year is irrelevant
Mavs trade is for win now mode but they still aren’t a better team than okc
Lakers were never winning it all this year but just set themselves up for the future
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:30 am to dallastiger55
Nico doesn’t want to give Luka the super max based on concerns over how he’d age regardless of his fitness, compounded by concerns over his durability and conditioning.
With those concerns, hard to imagine Luka staying in shape if he wasn’t happy, and possible it turns 2025 into a total wash.
Then he demands out over the summer if you’re not going to give him the full max, and you never get a player the quality of AD in that scenario.
So you just do it now. I guess that would be the logic?
With those concerns, hard to imagine Luka staying in shape if he wasn’t happy, and possible it turns 2025 into a total wash.
Then he demands out over the summer if you’re not going to give him the full max, and you never get a player the quality of AD in that scenario.
So you just do it now. I guess that would be the logic?
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:30 am to hg
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Nothing makes sense today.
LeBron is retiring and Luka is how they try and stay relevant
Thats the only thing that makes sense
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:30 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Even in a world where you are zeroed in on Anthony Davis as the return, not understanding the gulf in value enough to get more stuff (the other first round pick, pick swaps, Knecht, Austin Reaves) is indefensible as well
Now I’m imagining that Dallas asked for another pick, swaps, or Knecht and the Lakers just said no
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:31 am to dallastiger55
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Cuban and Luka knew nothing and were shocked
All comes down to Nico not wanting to give Luka a super max this offseason
I doubt Luka and Cuban were completely in the dark… they more than likely thought they would be more involved… Nico just pulled the trigger to avoid the shitstorm of trying to trade him publicly… what I’m sure Cuban and Luka would have preferred
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:31 am to VOLhalla
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Now I’m imagining that Dallas asked for another pick, swaps, or Knecht and the Lakers just said no
I'm sure they did. That's the cost of fixating on 1-2 guys, which gave the Lakers the edge in the value for sure.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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"The league" could have given them more return, but not immediate return.
What’s the point of an immediate return if you aren’t a title contender? Are you trying to say they are better now than before the trade? If the answer is no, then it makes no sense to go for the “better” player return than the asset return they could’ve received.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:38 am to Broski
Well this is unexpected
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:40 am to Epic Cajun
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What’s the point of an immediate return if you aren’t a title contender? Are you trying to say they are better now than before the trade?
It's clear they think they are moving forward
I think the two big issues that make people over rate the Lakers side of this are underestimating the value of Anthony Davis and overestimating the outlier playoff run the Mavericks had last year. This is also before we even get into the injuries, conditioning, and defense of Luka, and how these limits his teams.
That kind of summarized this in a way on the pelicans board I think should be posted here
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Many scenarios from this point involve this DAL team going further in the playoffs than where Luka can get the Lakers. People are pretending like these scenarios are closer to 90/10 or worse, when it's probably 60/40.
Posted on 2/2/25 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
The mavericks aren’t winning anything this year
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