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re: Settle a debate. Hakeem or Duncan?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:36 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Careers taken in their totality, Duncan had a better run
Hakeem had more points, steals and blocks. He also averaged more rebounds per game
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:37 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Tie. I don’t need a reason
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:38 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
I usually value peak over longevity so I lean Hakeem. Which isn't a diss on Duncan. They both might be tpp ten of all time players.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:45 pm to molsusports
quote:
I usually value peak over longevity so I lean Hakeem. Which isn't a diss on Duncan. They both might be tpp ten of all time players.
Duncan 10yr peak produced 130 Win Shares
Hakeems 10 year peak produced 113 Win Shares
Hakeem’s peak was not better than Duncan’s peak.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 8:48 pm to Lester Earl
Assuming statistics are the best arbiter. What about the peak five years for each?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:06 pm to VABuckeye
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What he did to Ewing in the finals was brutal.
Revenge for Ewing beating him for the national title in college
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:25 pm to TomBuchanan
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Michael Jordan puts him on his all time starting 5 so if the GOAT says you GOAT, you GOAT
Right, because MJ has proven his superlative ability to evaluate talent and build teams in ~20 years on the job. Let’s trust his opinion.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 9:55 pm to molsusports
Duncan 73
Olajuwon 54
Olajuwon 54
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:44 pm to Lester Earl
I’ll take Hakeem. He bested Shaq and Ewing head to head in the finals. He averaged 27 points the two title seasons to go along with the defense and was probably the best player in the league those two years.
The second best player on his first title team was Otis Thorpe? Maxwell? You could argue the 93-94 rockets had the worst second best player or any title team.
Duncan always had Robison or Parker/Ginobli.
It’s close and think both of these guys are among the must under appreciated players of all time. But I’ll take the peak offensive output that Hakeem could give you.
The second best player on his first title team was Otis Thorpe? Maxwell? You could argue the 93-94 rockets had the worst second best player or any title team.
Duncan always had Robison or Parker/Ginobli.
It’s close and think both of these guys are among the must under appreciated players of all time. But I’ll take the peak offensive output that Hakeem could give you.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:10 am to tigercross
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Right, because MJ has proven his superlative ability to evaluate talent and build teams in ~20 years on the job. Let’s trust his opinion.
Big difference when evaluating a guy you played against during each of your primes vs a guy 20 years younger than you
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:49 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Duncan
Because if I'm drafting a player, I want him.
If I'm sitting on a couch eating Cheetos...watching the NBA...
I take Hakeem.
Because if I'm drafting a player, I want him.
If I'm sitting on a couch eating Cheetos...watching the NBA...
I take Hakeem.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:03 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
I don’t know who was better but I always think it’s crazy how Duncan never gets the title tiebreaker almost every other athlete gets.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:08 am to VABuckeye
quote:If you thought that was brutal, you should have seen what he did to David Robinson after Robinson won the MVP.
What he did to Ewing in the finals was brutal.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:59 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Duncan 10yr peak produced 130 Win Shares
Hakeems 10 year peak produced 113 Win Shares
What sort of nonsense is this?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:06 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Lester Earl
Duncan 73
Olajuwon 54
Seems like you have a fair argument
I admit part of the reason I'm biased towards Hakeem over Duncan is bullshite. That reason being that Hakeem just looked like a world class athlete
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:14 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Hakeem was a better player. Duncan was surrounded by quality players for a much much longer time period.
I would take Hakeem over Duncan all day and all night.
I would take Hakeem over Duncan all day and all night.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:28 am to Lester Earl
I don’t know how that stat is tabulated but Duncan had a lot more talent around him than Olajuwon. Parker and Ginobli are both better than anyone Hakeem played with outside of maybe Drexler and he didn’t get Clyde until the end. He also had Pop one of the what top 5 top 3 maybe coaches of all time his entire career vs Bill Fitch Don Chaney and Rudy T
Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Duncan 10yr peak produced 130 Win Shares
Hakeems 10 year peak produced 113 Win Shares
Hakeem’s peak was not better than Duncan’s peak.
The average nba career is only 4.5 years, and this dumb mf'er is thinking peaks last 220% of that
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