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re: Sean Payton agrees to 5 year extension with Saints
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:22 am to List Eater
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:22 am to List Eater
.520 win % + 0 SB vs .604 win % + 1 SB
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:24 am to SwaggerCopter
Considering the Saints had won 1 playoff game in their entire franchise history prior to Payton, it's difficult to agree that he's an average coach.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:26 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:Agreed, Payton is probably a top 5 coach but the saints need a change at the top for the betterment of the organization. Some new blood, a new voice calling the shots.
But it also feels like Payton has run his course in New Orleans.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:31 am to drizztiger
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Considering the Saints had won 1 playoff game in their entire franchise history prior to Payton, it's difficult to agree that he's an average coach.
This.
The Saints front office is the issue right now IMO. If we get Drew’s heir apparent on roster to learn for a couple years, we’ll be fine with Payton once Drew is gone due to so much more cap space.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:36 am to Boomshockalocka
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Agreed, Payton is probably a top 5 coach but the saints need a change at the top for the betterment of the organization. Some new blood, a new voice calling the shots.
shitcanning top 5 coaches is always a good idea
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:38 am to boXerrumble
That's a lotta pills and alcohol for CSP.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:47 am to rondo
When you have 2 straight losing seasons and no turning it around in sight, no it wouldn't hurt to bring in a new coach to facilitate a rebuild. Paytons personnel decisions have wasted the last few good years of Brees career.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:49 am to Boomshockalocka
the whole "new voice" argument is ridiculous. Turn over in the NFL is so fast.
There are like 4 players on the current roster that have been there more than 4 years
There are like 4 players on the current roster that have been there more than 4 years
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:49 am to boXerrumble
He's around a top 5 coach for me, but they need to remove his GM ability. Payton the GM has hurt Payton the Coach in my opinion.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:50 am to rondo
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the whole "new voice" argument is ridiculous
someone with a different blueprint, new philosophy. Someone with a commitment to Defense.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:55 am to SwaggerCopter
I think he has one more run in him. They have had some terrible drafting in recent years and last year was the first time it feels like they hit pretty well with Jeff Ireland giving his full input on it. Hopefully they continue that here in the next draft to help put the pieces around Brees needed.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:56 am to Brageous
When did Jeff Ireland become some sort of genius? This is the same guy that just destroyed the Dolphins.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:58 am to Jcorye1
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When did Jeff Ireland become some sort of genius?
saints fans are jumping the gun on this and a lot of his picks we're still waiting to see if they even pan out, if peat doesn't start at RT, i'm going to shite a cow.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:59 am to Jcorye1
They'll learn soon enough 
I remember when LSU fans loved Gary Crowton that one year and fans from every other place he had been warned us not to get too excited.
I remember when LSU fans loved Gary Crowton that one year and fans from every other place he had been warned us not to get too excited. Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:00 am to Jcorye1
quote:Wasn't there an article about how the only good players the Dolphins had were because of Ireland?
When did Jeff Ireland become some sort of genius? This is the same guy that just destroyed the Dolphins.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:02 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:LSU did win the NC that year though.
They'll learn soon enough I remember when LSU fans loved Gary Crowton that one year and fans from every other place he had been warned us not to get too excited.
I'll take another Super Bowl for the Saints and then whomever ending up being a bust down the road.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:07 am to drizztiger
He can't do much better without a more talented roster. The FO is failing him.
He needed the last few years to get his ego in check. Hopefully he's learned from them.
He needed the last few years to get his ego in check. Hopefully he's learned from them.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:07 am to Jcorye1
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When did Jeff Ireland become some sort of genius? This is the same guy that just destroyed the Dolphins.
he's not our GM, he's more of a draft consultant.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:10 am to Boomshockalocka
It's hard to dump a coach that is guaranteed to have you a top 10 offense at the least, usually a top 5 offense, and you're teams are always have a chance to win any game based on the offense alone, despite consistently bad defenses.
I do think Payton has been humbled, bringing in a guy like Ireland is a huge step in peeling back some of his power, or at least getting a different voice in the draft room. Because we all know Loomis is a bottom 5 GM in the league and doesn't offer anything in that light. He has been the biggest problem with the Saints for years.
I do think Payton has been humbled, bringing in a guy like Ireland is a huge step in peeling back some of his power, or at least getting a different voice in the draft room. Because we all know Loomis is a bottom 5 GM in the league and doesn't offer anything in that light. He has been the biggest problem with the Saints for years.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:13 am to drizztiger
Since they've shed all the awful contracts for mediocre talent maybe, and it's not like the Dolphins are just vomiting success. They have one winning season since 2008 and two 8-8s. It's not like the AFC East is this powerhouse either.
Drafting starters with the 1-4 round picks isn't some sort of fantastic thing when you have that bad a team.
Drafting starters with the 1-4 round picks isn't some sort of fantastic thing when you have that bad a team.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 11:14 am
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