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re: Salt Lake City MLB

Posted on 5/29/26 at 6:50 am to
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/29/26 at 6:50 am to
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Metro Area (MSA): ~1.3 million residents (comprising Salt Lake and Tooele Counties).

Why would you include Tooele County which is basically a small town and a vast desert?

Salt Lake, Davis, and Utah Counties are where people would come from for the games and that's about a 2.4 million. A team there would be in the same metro population bucket as Pittsburgh, St Louis, and Baltimore. But it is one of the fastest growing areas in the country. It would be a better market than Milwaukee, Kansas City, and Cleveland.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13690 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:13 am to
I think one of the biggest problems SLC has is altitude. They are approx 4300 feet above sea level. Baseball in Colorado has been weak, in part bc the elevation hurts the pitching staff and manipulates the field dimensions. 8 winning seasons since 93 and ZERO division titles.


Best case scenario you get a Tampa rays type organization that wins with less. they’ll never be a free agent destination and always on the prospect dread list.

I just don’t think baseball is better with Utah. Leave them as a minor league destination— adding Utah just dilutes the product.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7500 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:28 am to
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they’ll never be a free agent destination


I would disagree. It's a beautiful place and low tax environment. A star could have a place in Park City and be at the park in 30 mins.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
2035 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 7:39 am to
Baseball markets are different. Biggest reason why the A’s left Oakland. MLB wants to expand its footprint not oversaturate its existing markets. Hence why Nashville and SLC are the leading candidates for expansions.
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
4415 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:04 am to
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I think one of the biggest problems SLC has is altitude. They are approx 4300 feet above sea level. Baseball in Colorado has been weak, in part bc the elevation hurts the pitching staff and manipulates the field dimensions. 8 winning seasons since 93 and ZERO division titles.


The Rockies suck because of shite ownership
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63569 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:17 am to
Yes, the Rockies support and attendance is actually incredible considering how poorly run they’ve been. If anything they prove the opposite
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5715 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 8:43 am to
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Nashville is already a shoe-in. The second team will probably be SLC. They will just be easier to deal with business wise than Montreal. Portland maybe but do we really want/need another West coast team? Austin and OKC are already in large MLB markets so they’re out. Charlotte makes sense but not going to expand two teams in the east.


I wouldn't be so sure about Nashville. Raleigh may end up being the spot in the east. They already have an owner and money in place. The owner of the Hurricanes and Trailblazers has committed. They have land and location for a stadium and local and state politicians are supporting it as well.

There are a couple other surprising things that can sway it to Raleigh as well. Raleigh is the nations largest TV market without an MLB team in its footprint. The TV market is larger than Nashville, Raleigh is 22nd and Nashville is 26th (Charlotte is 21st). The MLB uses a 60 mile radius for population. Raleigh has 2.4 million people in that radius and Nashville has 2.1. Raleigh has a faster growth rate as well. 1.68% vs. 1.19%. Raleigh would come into the league with a market bigger than 10 cities with teams. Maybe most importantly for owners is that Raleigh currently sits outside of any of the current TV market area. They would have to carve out of the Braves TV market to accommodate a team in Charlotte and Nashville would have to carve out of both the Braves and Cardinals markets.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55164 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:33 am to
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Biggest reason why the A’s left Oakland.
they left Oakland because they were never gonna get a new stadium there
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
2035 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 10:52 am to
That was certainly a factor but playing in the shadow of the Giants market always hindered their bottom line. They would’ve moved to San Jose but MLB blocked it. When Vegas became a thing it was a no-brainer.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
2035 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 10:58 am to
Ya that’s a good point. Nashville seems like the bigger draw from a marketing standpoint but both would be solid options.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
81861 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 11:34 am to
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It will be interesting whether the MLB moves to 4 8-team divisions or 8 4-team divisons.


4 divisions of 8 teams would be better so Manfred will definitely do 8 divisions of 4 teams.
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
897 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 6:42 pm to
MLB talent pool is already watered down. Expansion would water it down even more.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15939 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 9:44 pm to
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You are forgetting Davis County and Northern Utah and Southern Idaho.
Exactly, the 1.3M population is a fraction of the area. For some reason the region is broken up into multiple MSAs, but the total population for the SLC area is closer to 3 million.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
29195 posts
Posted on 5/29/26 at 10:20 pm to
A city has to have a massive population to support a MLB team and Salt Lake City does not have that population needed to support a baseball team

Salt lake is what? 1.4 million if that?

There is no way that a city of that size can fill up 80 home games every year.

Sure, if they are winning world series and making the playoffs every season sure, but if the team has a few losing seasons, they will be done

The next expansion team needs to be the Rays locating from Tampa to Orlando. Tourists will flock to see a ball game in Orlando especially if it's their home team

That's all mlb needs on my opinion
This post was edited on 5/29/26 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:16 am to
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They would be MLB's smallest market (20% smaller than Brewers) and would be competing with 2 other pro franchises in the city.

Not for long. And it is currently a lot bigger than you indicated.

Salt Lake City/Provo is a region that is growing so fast it will be a medium MLB market in 10 years.
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The Greater Wasatch Front (Salt Lake, Utah, Davis, and Weber counties) is home to over 2.6 million residents, accounting for nearly 73% of Utah's recent growth. State demographic forecasts project Utah's total population to grow from 3.6 million to 5.6 million by 2065, with the Wasatch Front absorbing the vast majority of this massive influx.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63569 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 8:21 am to
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The next expansion team needs to be the Rays locating from Tampa to Orlando.


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Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:35 am to
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Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:39 am to
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Salt lake is what? 1.4 million if that?


I wouldn’t use that number as your sole basis.

When you’re out here, it’s more about the sprawl along I-15, from north of Ogden area down thru Provo.

It is becoming massive. Even those in between areas like Lehi, American Fork, Pleasant Grove are experiencing massive growth.

A ton of tech has moved into the area.

Moreover, LDS families w a ton of kids, pro sports has proven to be a huge hit entertainment wise here. The Mammoth are crushing, and the Jazz always have.

But if you’re not in this region, I can understand why you’d underestimate this market.

But the growth is significant.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 9:40 am
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