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re: Roy Jones Jr. was the perfect boxer
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:27 am to JackDempsey
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:27 am to JackDempsey
Don't think I've seen a list that doesn't have Robinson at #1, all time, but I'm not into boxing like I was in the 80s when there were all those great lower weight bouts.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:30 am to Byron Bojangles III
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He was beatable exactly 10 times
Everybody gets old. In his 1st 49 fights he barely lost even 10 rounds
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:32 am to JackDempsey
quote:I think Roy barely even breaks a sweat vs Hagler
I do agree with you that Roy Jones Jr. was a great fighter. He would be a serious threat to anyone.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:19 am to VerlanderBEAST
You really believe this? I don't. Competition level is everything. Both in their primes Hagler and Jones would be an even match to me.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:16 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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He was unbeatable. His chin was fine and took punches well most his career
I don't know how you define "unbeatable", but when a guy loses 10 fights with 5 of them being stoppages, then he is beatable.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:51 pm to JackDempsey
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Sugar Ray Robinson is quite possibly the greatest boxer ever.
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:35 pm to gumbo2176
quote:Any human being will lose a fight at a certain age…..
don't know how you define "unbeatable", but when a guy loses 10 fights with 5 of them being stoppages, then he is beatable.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:30 pm to IlikeyouBetty
Marvin hagler was no slouch.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:23 pm to JackDempsey
quote:Roy beat MUCH better competition than Hagler.
You really believe this? I don't. Competition level is everything. Both in their primes Hagler and Jones would be an even match to me.
Hagler's known for fighting Welterweights and Lightweights. The best true MW he ever fought was Alan Minter
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:33 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Throw my opinion out then check what the boxing experts say. They all have Sugar Ray Robinson, Hagler and Monzon at the top of greatest all time middleweights.
I think Roy Jones Jr. Is generally considered a super middleweight or even lighmiddleweight. Great fighter, I don't dispute that.
I think Roy Jones Jr. Is generally considered a super middleweight or even lighmiddleweight. Great fighter, I don't dispute that.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:43 pm to JackDempsey
quote:Yes he spent more time in those divisions. Doesn't mean he wasn't unbeatable at MW too
I think Roy Jones Jr. Is generally considered a super middleweight or even lighmiddleweight. Great fighter, I don't dispute that.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:43 am to JackDempsey
Roy Jones Jr was a very special fighter in the history of boxing. He was a freak of nature with unbelievable speed, most vicious left hook and incredible footwork in a very athletic package.
I saw him fight live once and met him not long ago at a recent boxing match at the Smoothie King Center. As a lifelong boxing fan, it was a thrill to meet once of the true greats of the game.
I think Roy would have taken down Hagler. It would not have been easy, but Roy was just too much for anyone he fought, until he took too many shots. All boxers careers end this way. They never know when to quit, so you end up with a bunch of bad loses at the end of their careers. This does not take away from what I witnessed in the prime of his career, when he took apart Bernard Hopkins (another all time great fighter), James Toney, Vinny Pazienza, Montell Griffin, Virgil Hill, etc.
I saw him fight live once and met him not long ago at a recent boxing match at the Smoothie King Center. As a lifelong boxing fan, it was a thrill to meet once of the true greats of the game.
I think Roy would have taken down Hagler. It would not have been easy, but Roy was just too much for anyone he fought, until he took too many shots. All boxers careers end this way. They never know when to quit, so you end up with a bunch of bad loses at the end of their careers. This does not take away from what I witnessed in the prime of his career, when he took apart Bernard Hopkins (another all time great fighter), James Toney, Vinny Pazienza, Montell Griffin, Virgil Hill, etc.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 4:30 am to Da #1 Stunna
Going up to heavyweight sort of ruined him as a boxer. He didn't have any competition at light heavyweight or cruiserweight (no big $ fights), so he bulked up and moved to heavyweight. He gave up a ton of size in that fight and still won. He should have retired, or stayed at HW or cruiserweight. But dropping back down to light heavyweight was too much of an adjustment and he got beat, a lot. Then he fought for way too long.
If he retired after 50 fights, at 35 years old, with a 49-1 record (with the one lose a total sham), he'd be regarded much higher. That first fight with Tarver showed everyone that he lost too much. He squeaked out a win, but he was never the same. Those 26 additional fights (18-8) after turning 35 just diminished his legacy.
If he retired after 50 fights, at 35 years old, with a 49-1 record (with the one lose a total sham), he'd be regarded much higher. That first fight with Tarver showed everyone that he lost too much. He squeaked out a win, but he was never the same. Those 26 additional fights (18-8) after turning 35 just diminished his legacy.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 5:29 am to IlikeyouBetty
If he didn't go up in weight then try and drop back down even faster, he would have been fine. Once he tried dropping all that weight he started getting rocked. That Left Hook was just insane! He threw it from every angle!
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