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re: Rose Bowl voted to expanded CFP What is your prediction of the first 12 team Playoff?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:08 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:08 am to Epic Cajun
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what they should really do is have 4 power conferences of 12 teams, teams should only play conference games, so 11 regular season games and a conference championship between the top 2 teams in each conference after the regular season round-robin is complete.
I have argued for years that D1A needs to have another separation. Like 15+ years on here. It would eliminate a lot of these issues, but it would destroy the lower-level D1A teams/conferences financially.
That's kind of why I have literally no sympathy for the "non-BCS" teams/conferences. They are parasites sucking off the productivity of major CFB programs and conferences. If they really want to make life fair, it will get fair real fricking quick and they will not like it.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:09 am to pjk481
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Tulane would definitely not have that possibility. It’s win conference or stay home.
Think about the rationality of creating a system to determine the best team where you give unfair advantages to Tulane at the expense of Alabama and Tennessee this year. In what universe could you argue Tulane is anywhere near the same level of team as either?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Think about the rationality of creating a system to determine the best team where you give unfair advantages to Tulane at the expense of Alabama and Tennessee this year.
I’ve always preferred 4 teams and limiting it to just conference winners, however, if they go to 12 I’m also ok with giving a spot to a G5 team. Like the NCAA tournament auto bids to conference winner. I suppose technically you could argue it’s an “advantage” over a team like Alabama since Bama didn’t win their conference, but they would clearly still be in. Is the Patriot League champ getting an auto bid to the NCAA really an advantage over Kentucky or Duke when those teams don’t win the SEC or ACC? The P5 teams that would be out are teams like LSU or Utah who would have 4 losses if they don’t win their conference.
The problem with your “fair” world (nice Margin Call reference) is would the sport be viable if it was always only the top teams? I don’t think CFB could have become the behemoth it is if it was just the top 20-25 programs. Now maybe you could have just the P5 but then you don’t need more than a 4 team playoff imo
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:26 am to H-Town Tiger
IMO each team has played 12 playoff games already…it’s called the regular season
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:45 pm to Epic Cajun
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IMO, what they should really do is have 4 power conferences of 12 teams, teams should only play conference games, so 11 regular season games and a conference championship between the top 2 teams in each conference after the regular season round-robin is complete. Then they should have a 4 team playoff with the winner of each conference. The other bowl games could just be inter-conference games, like they are now.
Why bother with a conference championship game if the regular season is round-robin? Just apply a head-to-head tiebreaker if necessary.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Think about the rationality of creating a system to determine the best team where you give unfair advantages to Tulane at the expense of Alabama and Tennessee this year. In what universe could you argue Tulane is anywhere near the same level of team as either?
The system would actually be rather equitable. Tulane would have zero shot at making playoff without winning their conference AND being one the top 6 ranked conference champions. Basically, they’d have to win conference to have a 20% chance of going (being ranked higher than 4 other conference champions)
The LSU/Alabamas have the advantage of grabbing 1 of 6 at large spots that would virtually never be available to any G5 team.
Not to mention, the resource/$ advantages the P5 schools (and particularly the Bamas, lsu, Ohio states) have over the G5, I think giving them their one spot is more than equitable.
And if anyone in P5 thinks it’s “easier” to get their in G5 route, they certainly can drop down a conference and give up all the $$$/at-large advantages they have. But we know none will, nor should they
So yes, the collective G5 may have an advantage at securing one spot for themselves in total, but the individual teams in G5 are still very unlikely to ever make it relative to a P5 team
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:46 pm to El Segundo Guy
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This year again shows that 12 teams is a joke.
LSU, Clemson, Oregon, OSU, etc have no business in any championship playoffs after getting embarrassed on Saturday.
But what about Tulane/UCF
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they really want to make life fair, it will get fair real fricking quick and they will not like it.
The transfer portal has made G5 teams much more competitive this year. I expect the non conference upsets to continue in the coming years as the P5 transfers bolster the small school rosters
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:07 pm to El Segundo Guy
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This year again shows that 12 teams is a joke. LSU, Clemson, Oregon, OSU, etc have no business in any championship playoffs after getting embarrassed on Saturday.
No, after 2 years it will showcase how much of doormats these other programs that people try to compare to SEC caliber teams are.
Although the SEC wins the natty every year, we are still led to believe that other schools can compete, when that’s clearly not the case. When 3-4 SEC teams run the tournament and end up with an SEC championship final over and over it ends all discussion
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:17 pm to LSUSportsFan2000
A lot of SEC teams
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:23 pm to lsuman25
Vanderbilt is 12th over Texas A&M
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:26 pm to LSUSportsFan2000
LSU
ALABAMA
UGA
MICHIGAN
OHIO STATE
CLEMSON
SOUTHERN CAL
OREGON
UCF
TEXAS
PENN STATE
AUBURN
ALABAMA
UGA
MICHIGAN
OHIO STATE
CLEMSON
SOUTHERN CAL
OREGON
UCF
TEXAS
PENN STATE
AUBURN
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:58 pm to lsuman25
Very good very good!!
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