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re: Rickey Henderson would be unstoppable under Baseballs new rules.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:04 pm to Fishing Fanatic
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:04 pm to Fishing Fanatic
I pointed out in my post about Wagner, Forbes in Pittsburgh was 462 feet to dead center when he played. That’s 20 freaking yards deeper than Truist.
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:29 pm to InkStainedWretch
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I pointed out in my post about Wagner, Forbes in Pittsburgh was 462 feet to dead center when he played. That’s 20 freaking yards deeper than Truist.
When the Polo Grounds opened CF was 500 ft.
They later reduced CF to 483.
When Yankee Stadium was built CF was 490 ft, and was later reduced to 461.
So Babe Ruth's entire career at Yankee Stadium the CF wall was either 490 or 461.
Imagine hitting a 450 blast to center and having it land 40 feet short of the wall.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:31 pm to theunknownknight
No Hank Aaron????? 
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:33 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Mays is the greatest overall position player who ever lived
Hank Aaron says hello.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:44 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
The two downvoters have never watched any baseball obviously
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:53 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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The two downvoters have never watched any baseball obviously
Hank is underrated because he played in small markets (and yes back in the day ATL was a small market)
But Mays was a far better fielder and base runner, it isn't even close.
I would give overall edge to Mays.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:01 pm to Jax Teller
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Too many people don't understand how incredible he was
Easily a top 10 player that no ever recognizes
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:22 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
To me Willie is 10.0 and Hank is 9.9999999999. Enormous respect for both. And I will concede that Hank maintained his level a shade longer than Willie did.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:26 pm to InkStainedWretch
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To me Willie is 10.0 and Hank is 9.9999999999. Enormous respect for both. And I will concede that Hank maintained his level a shade longer than Willie did.
Hank would still have 3,000 hits without ever hitting a home run.
And yes he's still the HR King, not that roided out clown show.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:28 pm to okietiger
Since we’ve gotten kind of off topic here, I will use this opening to stick up for somebody who even though he was a first ballot Hall of Famer doesn’t IMO get enough credit/respect from fans or from history … Frank Robinson.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:34 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Since we’ve gotten kind of off topic here, I will use this opening to stick up for somebody who even though he was a first ballot Hall of Famer doesn’t IMO get enough credit/respect from fans or from history … Frank Robinson.
And Stan Musial.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:51 pm to Fishing Fanatic
Hank was the better overall hitter. 3rd all-time in hits and 1st in RBI's..
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:53 pm to Fishing Fanatic
That Musial … whose career stretched from roughly 2 months before Pearl Harbor to roughly 2 months before JFK made his drive through Dealey Plaza … finished with the same number of hits at home and on the road is IMO one of the most amazing stats in MLB history.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:53 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Agreed.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:08 pm to Fishing Fanatic
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And yes he's still the HR King, not that roided out clown show.
Had Bonds retired after the 2000 season, he'd have finished with 3 MVPs, 8 Gold Gloves, and more career HRs than Lou Gehrig. He was also an elite base stealer in his younger days. Talk about someone who would be even more unstoppable...
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:13 pm to VADawg
Yep.
Bonds was already a HoF'er before he became Popeye.
Bonds was already a HoF'er before he became Popeye.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:42 pm to Fishing Fanatic
Will Clark GOAT
suck on that
HARD
suck on that
HARD
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:48 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Forbes in Pittsburgh was 462 feet to dead center when he played.
That was actually the field he played in the latter half of his career. The early part was played in Exposition field. He played in that cavern from 1897 through 1908.
Left and Right Field – 400 feet (122 m)
Center Field – 450 feet (137 m)
He played in Forbes from 1909 through 1917
In Forbes, the original distances to the outfield fences in left, center, and right field were 360 feet (110 m), 462 feet (141 m), and 376 feet (115 m), respectively. In 1912 they modified the left field line to 365 feet (111 m) due to an issue with the foul pole that left a small slice that was actually 301 feet (92 m) but was problematic for the fielders.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:06 pm to ned nederlander
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Obviously just my opinion, but I don’t think he juiced during his peak. He juiced, it was to eke out the last 4-5 seasons of his career.
Posted on 7/4/23 at 5:25 pm to mdomingue
Thanks man I miscounted on his career years and should’ve gone back farther and gotten numbers for Exposition. He also played three seasons at Eclipse Park in Louisville which was 430 to CF.
The point remains, hitting mush balls at distant fences is why so few home runs were hit in the prehistoric days, it’s not because the hitters were 98-pound weaklings.
The point remains, hitting mush balls at distant fences is why so few home runs were hit in the prehistoric days, it’s not because the hitters were 98-pound weaklings.
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