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re: Reds acquire Mat Latos
Posted on 12/17/11 at 3:05 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/17/11 at 3:05 pm to Lester Earl
Remember: the two folks most responsible for Rizzo's inclusion in A-Gon deal now work with the Cubs.
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Posted on 12/17/11 at 4:28 pm to SwampDonks
Well, I go take a nap and look what happens. Fleece the Reds for our #2 starter. Lolz.
This post was edited on 12/17/11 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:20 pm to Them
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Fleece the Reds for our #2 starter
Number 2 starter? lol
Latos is a stud. They got a really nice haul, but Mat is a tremendous pitcher.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:26 pm to SwampDonks
Big win for The Padres IMO.
I could see Volquez putting up some great numbers pitching in SD. Over Latos' career he has a 3.57 ERA on the road and a 3.11 ERA at home. He's had really good road numbers, but the Reds have to be expecting some 2010 Latos stats to give up that much for him. If Latos can do that it's a win win since Alonso and Grandal are wouldn't have seen much PT.
I could see Volquez putting up some great numbers pitching in SD. Over Latos' career he has a 3.57 ERA on the road and a 3.11 ERA at home. He's had really good road numbers, but the Reds have to be expecting some 2010 Latos stats to give up that much for him. If Latos can do that it's a win win since Alonso and Grandal are wouldn't have seen much PT.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:29 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Number 2 starter? lol
He was technically our #2 starter behind Harang. Mat is a better pitcher, however.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:31 pm to SwampDonks
Terrible trade for the Reds. Gave up way too much.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:34 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
This is a very good deal for the Pads. Reds gave up way too much imo with Latos being a flyball pitcher and wildly inconsistent.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:35 pm to Them
Latos is one of my favorite pitchers in the majors. I think he will be an absolute stud. He looked like a top 10 pitcher in 2010 and was really good in the second half of 2011. He had some terrible luck last year, but he was able to turn it around for a decent season.
I hope he does well with the Reds (except against the Cubs).
I hope he does well with the Reds (except against the Cubs).
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:36 pm to Unbiased Bama Fan
They didn't give up anyone that was going to get significant time for them this year. Grandal isn't ready yet, and he's blocked by Mesoraco. Alonso can't play OF worth a shite, so he's blocked by Votto at 1B. Boxberger wasn't going to see the majors for them this year, and the Reds have already given up on Volquez. He wasn't even slated to make the rotation BEFORE they got Latos. They are playing for the present, not the future.
High price? Sure. But they weren't going to make any noise in the postseason with their current rotation. There aren't any teams coming off a #1 starter for any cheaper than that.
LOTS of Reds fans are pissed about the deal, which confuses the shite out of me. They've spent 20 years complaining about the front office "playing for the future," and now that they make a move to place them as the NL Central favorites, they get pissed. Idiots.
High price? Sure. But they weren't going to make any noise in the postseason with their current rotation. There aren't any teams coming off a #1 starter for any cheaper than that.
LOTS of Reds fans are pissed about the deal, which confuses the shite out of me. They've spent 20 years complaining about the front office "playing for the future," and now that they make a move to place them as the NL Central favorites, they get pissed. Idiots.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:38 pm to volfan30
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Reds gave up way too much imo with Latos being a flyball pitcher and wildly inconsistent.
Wildly inconsistent in terms of not throwing strikes, or inconsistent in terms of not stringing together good starts consecutively?
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:42 pm to SwampDonks
Damn, that's a lot to give up.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:44 pm to reddman
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inconsistent in terms of not stringing together good starts consecutively
This.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:47 pm to reddman
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inconsistent in terms of not stringing together good starts consecutively
He obviously has ace stuff, but he is not an ace every time out.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:47 pm to reddman
To bad the central is going to blow this year, so it wouldn't require much to be the favorite.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:49 pm to volfan30
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He obviously has ace stuff, but he is not an ace every time out.
He set a major league record with 15 consecutive starts allowing 2 runs or less in 2010. If that's not consistent, I dont know what is.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:51 pm to reddman
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He set a major league record with 15 consecutive starts allowing 2 runs or less in 2010.
And then he struggled in the first half of 2011.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:52 pm to volfan30
coming off of an injury.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 6:55 pm to reddman
And if there's anything to worry about with Latos, it's his tendency to be a hothead.
I'm hoping as he matures that he will control that better. He's still just 24.
I'm hoping as he matures that he will control that better. He's still just 24.
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:04 pm to Lester Earl
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this makes them the favorite in the Central
Uhhh, no.
Latos doesn't make them a 90 win team alone and I think the brewers and cards can still get to 90
Posted on 12/17/11 at 7:08 pm to swamie
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Uhhh, no.
Latos doesn't make them a 90 win team alone and I think the brewers and cards can still get to 90
LOL.
LOfrickingL.
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