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Ranking the (mediocre to bad) Coaching Hires of Downtrodden National Powers

Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:07 pm
Texas, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska and Tennessee all have something in common - they’ve made god awful coaching hires since their last national championship. I’m going to try to rank them.

I haven’t included current head coaches but I have a feeling some will soon be joining the list.

The coaches:
Nebraska –
Frank Solich – 1998-2003 – 58-19 (0.753) Won Division 1999, 2 NY6 Bowls 1999 W, 2001
Bill Callahan – 2004-2007 – 27-22 (0.551) Won Division 2006, NY6 Bowl 2006
Bo Pelini – 2008-2014 – 66-27 (0.710) Won Division 2009, 2010 & 2012, 2 NY6 Bowl 2011 & 2012
Mike Riley 2015-2017 – 19-19 (0.500)

Tennessee –
Lane Kiffin 2009 – 7-6 (0.538)
Derek Dooley – 2010-2013 – 15-21 (0.417)
Butch Jones 2013-2017 – 30-21 (0.588)

Michigan –
Rich Rodriguez – 2008-2010 – 15-22 (0.405)
Brady Hoke – 2011-2014 – 31-20 (0-2 as Tennessee Interim HC) (0.608)

Texas –
Charlie Strong 2014-2016 – 15-21 (0.417)

Miami –
Randy Shannon 2007-2010 – 28-22 (0.560)
Al Golden 2011-2015 – 32-25 (0.561)
Mark Richt 2016-2018 – 26-12 (0.684) Won Division 2017, NY6 Bowl 2017

Tiers – A successful season or two (>0.650)
1. Frank Solich – Highest winning percentage and the only coach to win a NY6 Game, finished ranked 2/3 in 1999
2. Bo Pelini – Won division 3 times, second highest winning percentage
3. Mark Richt – Had the Hurricanes at #2 for a brief period in 2017

Mediocore (0.500 – 0.650)
4. Brady Hoke
5. Butch Jones
6. Al Golden
7. Randy Shannon
8. Bill Callahan
9. Lane Kiffin
10. Mike Riley

Set Program Back Years (<0.500)
T11. Charlie Strong & Derek Dooley
13. Rich Rodriguez
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65497 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:08 pm to
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National Powers

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Tennessee

lets not get carried away
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120262 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:08 pm to
Tennessee and Nebraska are lost causes due to geographic issues. If they can hire a coach that averages 8-9 wins they should be very happy.

Miami is a mess.

No excuse for Texas or Michigan.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:10 pm to
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lets not get carried away


alright, former National Championship Winners
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:14 pm to
Is Tennessee really at a geographical disadvantage compared to Michigan?
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10413 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Set Program Back Years (<0.500) 
T11. Charlie Strong & Derek Dooley 
13. Rich Rodriguez


I disagree on RichRod. He didn't set Michigan back years, they went 11-2 and won a BCS bowl the year after he was fired.

RichRod left a lot of raw materials that Hoke had success with early. Hoke fell apart down the line when his own recruits started playing big roles.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14035 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:31 pm to
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Butch Jones 2013-2017 – 30-21 (0.588)


In hindsight, that doesn’t seem that bad
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Is Tennessee really at a geographical disadvantage compared to Michigan?



HS football in TN is just not as good as the home states of other "Blue Bloods"... Sure there are some good athletes but not nearly as many

Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7315 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:38 pm to
Butch Jones has got to be the worst. He had Alvin Kamara and he didn't do jack shite with him.

ALVIN

frickING

KAMARA

Hoke is a close second. He ran interest in Michigan football down to the point where if you bought two Cokes in the student union, they gave you a pair of tickets. Swear to God.
I love the fact that fat dipshit Jason Whitlock urged Tennessee to hire Brady Hoke. Going from Butch to him would truly be Dumb and Dumber.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13910 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:38 pm to
I don't really blame Nebraska too much for falling off because it's probably hard to get people to go there nowadays.

The others have no excuse for being terrible. Desirable locations, historic programs, and tons of money.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:38 pm to
Michigan record since 2015 is better than their record from 1990-2007
Posted by Ragnar Danneskjold
North of you
Member since Dec 2015
412 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Michigan record since 2015 is better than their record from 1990-2007


Really? Wow. So Harbs is in trouble for getting teabagged by Urbs and shitting the bed in bowl games?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:41 pm to
Yes

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95413 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:48 pm to
I’d say a big part of the problem with Harbaugh is a combination of how much they are paying him and the expectations that come as a result of that.

Shitting the bed in big games is a problem to begin with but it is a lot harder to take when you are paying top dollar for that right.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31901 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:54 pm to
I know you didn't include current coaches, but Pruitt may be the worst of the bunch, even worse than Strong at Texas.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11192 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:58 pm to
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HS football in TN is just not as good as the home states of other "Blue Bloods"... Sure there are some good athletes but not nearly as many


The state of Tennessee produces more blue chip prospects than Michigan. Historically, it wasn’t unusual for UM to have more players from Ohio than Michigan on their roster. In recent years, they have pulled a lot of recruits out of FL, GA, TX, and NJ.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 3:59 pm to
Nebraska is not that bad. No coach under .500. They just had unrealistic expectations. Didn’t they fire Solich coming off a 10 win season?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95413 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:13 pm to
Something like that.

There excuse was that they were on a downward trajectory and needed to fix it, IIRC. So they hired Bill Callahan who ran a completely different system from Osborne and Solich, running things into the ground in the process.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3027 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:32 pm to
Nebraska should not have fired Pelini.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:32 pm to
USC should be on this list
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