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re: Randy Livngston...When does his appeal get heard and what does everyone think will happen?

Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/18/24 at 12:33 pm to
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They lived in the penthouse condo long enough to be eligible in that district. Once eligible where they lived after that is not relevant


This rule needs to change. If a public school kid moves out of district, they can't stay in the same school.

So why should private school kids who move out of district keep eligibility?

This is one of the few legit complaints the publics have.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53790 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:28 pm to
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If a public school kid moves out of district, they can't stay in the same school.


That’s what I did in Metairie the year I moved to Chalmette… we moved in November but I stayed going to my middle school in Metairie because we had family there
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
8022 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 2:29 pm to
Word on the street is all clear and no sanctions.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:47 pm to
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Word on the street is all clear and no sanctions.


Wow.

Money wins. Always.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Wow.

Money wins. Always.
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Based on what I heard from the hearing, it had nothing to do with money and everything to do with the LHSAA’s inability to conduct an actual investigation.

Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7046 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 4:54 pm to
They played the not enough evidence card.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
142 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:04 pm to
So does that mean it’s over or LHSAA just has to conduct more of an investigation?
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7046 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:11 pm to
I have a meeting with my source in a bit, but I would assume it means Randy is in the clear.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:13 pm to
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They played the not enough evidence card.


We heard two different things
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7046 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:16 pm to
That's fair. I haven't had a phone conversation yet. Just a couple word text.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:17 pm to
I basically heard that they were so many due process problems with the investigation that the judge just threw everything out and is not going to let the LHSAA bring it to the Executive Committee.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7046 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:23 pm to
Makes sense. I'll find out exactly what happened in a couple hours.

Edit: You're right. The Nola.com article says they weren't given due process and they upheld the injunction until a proper hearing can take place. We'll see what my guy says.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53790 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 5:48 pm to
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and everything to do with the LHSAA’s inability to conduct an actual investigation.


But I heard they had a rock solid source with receipts

Didn’t know a judge could interfere in a private organization’s operations like that
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7046 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:00 pm to
The article says that the school wasn't informed of the investigation until they were handed punishment. No due process. So now they get a new hearing date.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 6:01 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 6:59 pm to
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Based on what I heard from the hearing, it had nothing to do with money and everything to do with the LHSAA’s inability to conduct an actual investigation.


Which only happens if you have enough money to take it to court.

Also sounds like a technicality, no?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Barial said the LHSAA violated Livingston’s 14th Amendment right to due process when it suspended him without a chance to appeal.


Since when did the 14th amendment apply to a private member-based organization?

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She said the LHSAA, even as a private organization, should be treated as a government agency because it oversees athletics for more than 400 schools, many of them public schools, out of about 440 in Louisiana.


Aaaaaannnnddddd... an Orleans Parish Civil Court judge just ripped off the entire top of Pandora's Box.

This is WILD and if allowed to stand will have far-reaching consequences.

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Newman head of school Dale Smith said the LHSAA did not notify the school it was being investigated for possible violations before suspending Livingston on Dec. 14. LHSAA handbook rule 2.1.3 says the school principal “shall be required to appear before the LHSAA Executive Committee and the Executive Director to answer the allegations against his/her school.”


I always thought the process was a punishment was issued by the Exec Director, and then there is the option for an appeal to the Executive Committee. This seems to be how they have handled punishments in the past.

I don't ever remember a time where there was a hearing before the Exec Committee before a decision was made... it was always on appeal when the Exec Committee got involved.

Did the attorneys find that LHSAA isn't following their own policies? IF so... just about every punishment that LHSAA has handed out has a problem.

Again... money. Without the money to hire attorneys to fight and dig into this... none of this happens.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:15 pm to
LHSAA has been pretty toothless the last few years.

If this stands, they may as well close the doors and reopen as a brand new organization.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53790 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:28 pm to
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She said the LHSAA, even as a private organization, should be treated as a government agency because it oversees athletics for more than 400 schools, many of them public schools, out of about 440 in Louisiana.


Just because she says it, doesn’t mean it’s so

The LHSAA being a private organization has been litigated and settled
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 7:29 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:44 pm to
It is a voluntary membership organization on top of that.

If a school doesn’t want to be in the LHSAA, they can join the MPSAA or form a new iteration of LISA.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Just because she says it, doesn’t mean it’s so

The LHSAA being a private organization has been litigated and settled


Either the LHSAA appeals this, or just remove the rulebook and let schools do whatever they want.

I think this gets slapped back by the court of appeals, but who knows how long that takes.
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