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re: Rampage out of title fight

Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:42 am to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:42 am to
while i get what your saying,
chuck is also on the decline hes 39, strikers get worn (wear and tear, and battles) out more than wrestler. and while chuck was a wrestler in college he has been a striker before and after that.

he is also a counter striker but a powerful and sometimes a sloppy one. rampage was very patient against chuck in the second fight, and it pissed chuck off and it left him exposed. i can see him getting pissed off against lyoto as well and see chuck in a similar outcome like he was against rampage.

now against shogun i don't see that because i dont see how shogun will be 100% in shape for this fight when he just had one not that long ago.

Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:49 am to
You guys see Shields/Lawler lined up to scrap at 185 for Strikeforce? Stand-up vs Wrestler. Should be interesting.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:51 am to
Lyoto would be a nightmare for Chuck IMO. I really don't see how Chuck would beat him other then luckily landing that big looping overhand. I guess really Rashad, Rampage, and Forrest are the guys I want to see Machida fight. If he goes through all three of them, all of a sudden he would be getting mentioned for the P4P best fighter and such.
Posted by aibo synthetic
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:56 am to
people probably misunderstand my position and think it's a slight to Machida. It's about the matchmaking, not Machida, who I think is a great fighter (though still with something to prove, imo). I think Machida wins close ones over Evans and Rampage (if he doesn't change somerhing).

Same with Lesnar, he should have top contender before getting Couture. I didn't think 1 UFC win over Herring was enough to warrant a title shot
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70004 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:58 am to
well he is learning more wrestling and is training with AKA which has kos, cain velasquez, etc.

oh and i think there was a video on sherdog the other day where new ufc signee satoshi ishii was throwing a guy that looked like lyoto machida. this ishii guy is a olympic gold medalist in judo.
This post was edited on 3/13/09 at 9:02 am
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30102 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:00 am to
Well really with Rampage being hurt, who deserves a shot at the 205 title more then Lyoto then? Dude is undefeated with a lot of fights under his belt. He has beaten a lot of big names even if a couple are has beens or fighting out of their weight class. His wins have been so impressive (impressive in that he didn't seem to get touched), that I am ready to see him get a shot. Really Anderson Silva is the only guy I wouldn't mind seeing have a shot at the 205 title over him under the current circumstances.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:26 am to
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new ufc signee satoshi ishii


Ishii and Sexiyama will spearhead the UFC's Asian invasion. They might make a move for Cung Le also.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:46 am to
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For some reason, I think Forrest might be a tough match up for him. Forrest might even beat him.


I think Forrest is way too slow to beat Lyoto. I think speed is what is needed to beat him.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:51 am to
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For some reason, I think Forrest might be a tough match up for him. Forrest might even beat him.




I think Forrest is way too slow to beat Lyoto. I think speed is what is needed to beat him.


Machida would pick Forrest apart. Forrest might hit him once, might.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30102 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 9:56 am to
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Machida would pick Forrest apart. Forrest might hit him once, might.


Forrest will have a really nice size advantage. More then Machida will be used to. Forrest is really lengthy as well. I don't know why, but I just think he would match up......I know he will be a lot slower, but he has some boxing skills and I do think Forrest is pretty smart. He might figure out a way to beat Machida IMO.
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 10:14 am to
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people probably misunderstand my position and think it's a slight to Machida. It's about the matchmaking, not Machida, who I think is a great fighter (though still with something to prove, imo). I think Machida wins close ones over Evans and Rampage (if he doesn't change somerhing).

Same with Lesnar, he should have top contender before getting Couture. I didn't think 1 UFC win over Herring was enough to warrant a title shot



I can't agree with you more about Lesnar, and can't disagree with you more about Machida. He could fight Chuck and Forrest and you could call them cheap wins over has been former champs like you did with Tito. Tito was coming off a draw against the current champ when Machida schooled him.

Silva was undefeated and had only been past round 1 in 4 of his 13 fights. Silva's last three fights were against guys without big wins but had 14-1 (13WS), 8-1 (8WS w/1NC), and 14-2 (11ws) records.

Sokoudjou was supposed to take the UFC by storm.
Posted by LSUgrasshopper
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2006
5282 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 10:14 am to
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Machida would pick Forrest apart. Forrest might hit him once, might.


he'd get him at least 3 times... (once per round)
Posted by John Doe
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Member since Feb 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Nick Diaz doesn't want to hear that he's bad for the sport
By Steve Cofield

Strikeforce rolled out its fighters for a press conference on Wednesday. Nick Diaz was typical Nick Diaz. He gave the finger to Frank Shamrock which made for a great photo op. Shamrock responded by saying Diaz is bad for the sport and said that he wouldn't want his daughter to watch him fight. Five Ounces of Pain spoke with Diaz who didn't appreciate the "bad for the sport" line (4:31 mark):
"We fight in a cage (expletive). There's no such thing as bad for the sport nowadays. It's not my part to worry about what's good and bad for the sport. I'm just trying to keep my teeth in my mouth."
Diaz and his brother Nate are constantly referred to as punks and thugs:
"Don't try to (expletive) single me out and say that I'm bad for the sport cause I have no class, none of you have any class. This is not the place to have class."


quote:

Is Diaz on to something? The sport would be boring at times without trash-talkers. Such a big deal is made about fighters who celebrate excessively, who cares?
"People act like this is a tennis match and act like this isn't warfare," said Diaz. "It's already out there. This is making way too much money (to turn back now). It's like the plague. It's like a disease. Anything that makes money right now, you can't get rid of it."


LINK


Looking forward to Diaz-Shamrock. Looks like it'll be a decent card. Hoping they add one or two more names.
Posted by aibo synthetic
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Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:21 pm to
I am interested to see if Evans can make Machida come after him. If he does, he has enough speed and power to end the fight.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21023 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 10:53 am to
God I hate all things Diaz
Posted by John Doe
NOLA
Member since Feb 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:04 am to
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Anyone hear anything about when Jon Jones might be in action again?



Read they are trying to set up Jon Jones VS Jake O'Brien at UFC 100. Believe this is O'Brien's first fight at 205. 4-2 in the UFC.
Posted by 3lsu3
Member since Sep 2004
4692 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:32 am to
"God I hate all things Diaz"
I know you hate their personalities, but as a fight fan I can't believe you don't like them once the fight starts. There is no bitch in either diaz brother.
Posted by FLU
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Member since Dec 2008
1250 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 11:39 am to
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Same with Lesnar, he should have top contender before getting Couture. I didn't think 1 UFC win over Herring was enough to warrant a title shot


Well, considering Lesnar beat Couture, looks like Dana knew what he was doing...
Posted by aibo synthetic
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Member since Nov 2007
3412 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 12:22 pm to
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Well, considering Lesnar beat Couture, looks like Dana knew what he was doing...


Couture was/is overrated. He never had a chance against Lesnar. Terrible matchup. It's not about who can beat who, it's about earning the right.
Posted by FLU
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Member since Dec 2008
1250 posts
Posted on 3/14/09 at 6:58 pm to
Just curious... who exactly IS a good match-up for Lesnar? That dude is an animal, and I don't see him getting caught in another rookie mistake again...
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