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Posted on 3/12/09 at 2:05 pm to John Doe
When is Bader going to fight?
Posted on 3/12/09 at 2:08 pm to John Doe
theres an article on sherdog today suggesting fights for Jon Jones, Bader etc
Posted on 3/12/09 at 2:09 pm to PortCityTiger24
April 1st vs Carmelo Marrero
Posted on 3/12/09 at 7:03 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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Why not, he's still a top 10 fighter after the loss.
WAMMA #9
mma weekly #10
mma playground #10
Who has he beaten? Lot's of guys bounce in and out of the rankings. He's unproven. If he sticks around and gets some skins on the wall, then I will agree, but a good record doesn't always tell the whole story.
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14 - 0 with an impressive win list vs. Page's impressive resume but recent loss to Forrest. It's Machida's shot.
Actually is was Page's shot, but he couldn't go, so it defaulted to Machida.
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And what about Tito?
What about him?
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What about Franklin?
Rich was a good 85er.
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I understand he's not the most exciting guy, but he dominates.
I don't have a problem with him or his style. I would have liked to see him against another proven contender first, that's all. It doesn't matter, though, it's all about to come out in the wash. If Machida or Evans wins the next 2 fights, they will have been tried by fire and legit.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:07 pm to TigerintheNO
Machida will destroy Evans. Machida's stand up is the best I have ever seen besides Anderson Silva. Silva has a more attacking stand up. Machida has more of a defensive stand up. He reminds me so much of Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather. He can get in and strike and leap out before the fighter can even throw a punch. His opponents are often left standing there saying "where did he go"?
Machida destroyed Thiago Silva who was unbeaten. The way he did it was impressive. He didn't swing like a wild man, leaving himself wide open, the way Chuck Liddell always does. He just picked him apart without taking any punishment. Go back and watch the Machida vs Tito fight. Machida picked Tito apart and there was nothing Tito could do.
Machida's defensive fighting style is by far the best I have seen in MMA. Usually you see this in boxing.
Machida will easily beat Evans in my opinion. He will win by decision.
Machida destroyed Thiago Silva who was unbeaten. The way he did it was impressive. He didn't swing like a wild man, leaving himself wide open, the way Chuck Liddell always does. He just picked him apart without taking any punishment. Go back and watch the Machida vs Tito fight. Machida picked Tito apart and there was nothing Tito could do.
Machida's defensive fighting style is by far the best I have seen in MMA. Usually you see this in boxing.
Machida will easily beat Evans in my opinion. He will win by decision.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 8:33 pm to ctiger69
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Machida will easily beat Evans in my opinion. He will win by decision.
I would say Machida by decision too, but Evans might get dropped as well IMO. I bet he will get a little wild when he is losing on the cards in the 4th or 5th round. Chuck was clearly beating him when Chuck got dropped in that fight......really Forrest is Rashad's only really impressive win in my book. IF Machida gets by Evans, him vs Rampage will be a much bigger test IMO. Rampage was the guy I thought would beat Machida all the way up until his fight the other night. I've got Machida now. I don't see Rampage catching him, and that is the only way he is beating Lyoto.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 9:23 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
Rampage consistently firing jabs would change his whole game. He has reduced his game to closing the distance and blasting power punches to get a quick KO. If he would be more busy on the outside, and give the opponent more to think about he would be more devastating with the power punches.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 9:30 pm to aibo synthetic
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Rampage consistently firing jabs would change his whole game. He has reduced his game to closing the distance and blasting power punches to get a quick KO
Rampage couldn't defend Griffen's kicks- it is hard to land a jab if you are getting kicked. You can't close the distance.
Now can Rampage eat a few get inside and take him down/clinch and do some damage?
But if Rampage tries to fire jabs at him all night he won't make it 5 rounds.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:12 pm to TigerintheNO
Not firing them all night, but using them to pepper him (hell he probably hits hard enough to hurt ppl with a jab) and set up his power shots. Machida is going to rush in and then retreat just as quick. Rampage can throw his timing off if he has to eat jabs on the way in. It's probably going to be that or flailing away and being made to look clumsy and slow.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:47 pm to aibo synthetic
The way I look at Machida is, "what have you done lately". The guy beat Tito while the guy was on his way down. He beat BJ Penn 4 years ago, but in between those fights he went to a decision in pretty much every fight that I saw against sub-par fighters. The guy can fight, don't get me wrong, but does he deserve a title shot at this point. I would say no.
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:48 pm to PacoDeTaco
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but does he deserve a title shot at this point. I would say no.
so with Rampage being out... would you give someone else the title shot?
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:44 am to PortCityTiger24
from what i have gathered tito was 100% ready for the machida fight, and it was machida who had the flu or illness.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:46 am to aibo synthetic
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Who has he beaten?
We've been over this.. a pretty impressive list.
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Lot's of guys bounce in and out of the rankings
He's number 2 behind Rashad in almost all of them.
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He's unproven
No, he's proven he's dominating great fighters.
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If he sticks around and gets some skins on the wall,
He's got 14 wins, and 6 come against names an average mma fan would recognize.
Silva, Ortiz, Sokoudjou Penn, Franklin, Bonnar
And on top of that, He's never lost a round on a judges card.
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I would have liked to see him against another proven contender first,
That's what the Silva fight was all about.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:47 am to PacoDeTaco
well then i suggest you face him in a shotokan karate match.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:51 am to PacoDeTaco
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but in between those fights he went to a decision in pretty much every fight that I saw against sub-par fighters.
He's never lost a round, I think he's fought maybe 2 guys with a losing record, none in the ufc.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 7:54 am to LSUgrasshopper
i think if the ufc markets machida better by doing a similar documentary like gsp and bj penn I think the ufc would get an even larger fan base from the TMA people (traditional martial arts) since his is heavily focused on shotokan karate. and his old man can still throw a mean punch.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:08 am to LSUgrasshopper
I thought B.J. got a round off of Machida? I haven't seen the fight, just thought I remember B.J. making that one really close.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:11 am to LSUgrasshopper
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we've been over this etc..etc..
most of those quotes were about Thiago silva, not Machida. Silva is not proven, imo, since I want to say that his biggest win is over Houston Alexander. I would have preferred to see Machida against someone like Forrest, or Chuck, or Jardine that has some skins on the wall. Tito would count but for his rapid decline.
Posted on 3/13/09 at 8:20 am to aibo synthetic
I don't know, I think Forrest and Chuck both being former champs and Forrest being a recent former champ.......just Machida fighting Rashad isn't a leap IMO. It will all work out. I'm sure the winner fights Rampage anyway. I'd like to see Forrest against Machida too, btw. For some reason, I think Forrest might be a tough match up for him. Forrest might even beat him.
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