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re: Raiders to suspend Antonio brown

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Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69502 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:04 pm to
frick that, you're a first year GM you can't let someone like that walk all over you. Stand your ground, he skipped a walk through for no reason and told no one and got fined. Cut him after he forfeits the guaranteed money if it comes to that.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:05 pm to
How long is it going to be until AB brings up some sort of racism issue??

That’s his next play, right?
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Just release him now.

Nope. Then someone else might give him money.

Suspend him, void his guarantees which amounts to his base salaries for 2019 and 2020, and his workout bonuses that haven't been paid yet.

Then you can keep him (hopefully on the straight and narrow) or you can release him when he gets back and is a pain but with keeping your cap space.

Remember, Antonio Brown has only gotten some workout bonus money and a $1,000,000 signing bonus. If this suspension voids his guarantees (i.e. his base salaries), he'll have to show up and be responsible to get his 14+ million salary for the year.
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
2200 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Antonio Brown posted the fine letter on social media that Raiders’ GM Mike Mayock sent him. It led to an exchange, which is now leading to further discipline. This is not going away anytime soon.


I can't remember which episode of Hard Knocks it was where Mayock was speaking with media but I could tell he wasn't the biggest AB fan. Thought it was pretty interesting they didn't show Mayock in any episodes after that.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
14829 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:06 pm to
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In fact I'm guessing he'll post something stupid shortly.



no doubt
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42074 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Right but Mayock should have taken the high road but now he has turned it into a full fledged dumpster fire.

How is Mayock supposed to take the high road with a guy like AB? That's akin to a parent taking the high road with their bratty children by giving them whatever they want when they scream and shout.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20202 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:09 pm to
The NFL is full of divas. A hardo GM is not what you want to be. Nothing else matters other than on field production. Just get them on the field producing at a high level
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69502 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:11 pm to
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During the exchange with Mayock, Brown reportedly had to be "held back by a couple of teammates," according to The Athletic's Vic Tafur.
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3392 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:11 pm to
This thread is divided between those who do and do not have AB in fantasy football
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22923 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:12 pm to
Brown =

Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7162 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:12 pm to
He may not play a game for the Raiders at this point
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39135 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:12 pm to
I mean it’s not like he’s any less talented at playing receiver because of this. He’s just an idiot that’s also really good.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80327 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:13 pm to
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I can't remember which episode of Hard Knocks it was where Mayock was speaking with media but I could tell he wasn't the biggest AB fan. Thought it was pretty interesting they didn't show Mayock in any episodes after that.



It's pretty clear Gruden and Mayock are playing good cop/bad cop when it comes to AB.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69502 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:15 pm to
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The reality here is that the offseason drama is likely enough for the #Raiders to void the $29M of salary guarantee. They can also go after the $1M signing bonus based on missed practices, etc… meaning Antonio Brown could then be released with $0 dead cap.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
20202 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:17 pm to
He is not going to lose guaranteed money bc of “foot/helmet” drama that impacted literally nothing
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:17 pm to
Dude needs a wake up call, one game might not be enough
Posted by BBATiger
Member since Jun 2005
16773 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:20 pm to
diva
This post was edited on 9/5/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69502 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:20 pm to
That is normal contract language.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91424 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:20 pm to
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i guess i didnt get too worked up over the whole foot thing or the helmet thing. especially while watching hard knocks when gruden and mayock were talking to one another saying they 100% knew the full story the whole time and didnt get the way the media was reporting it
How was it being reported?

Did anyone around here get worked up over the foot and helmet thing? He came off as a MORON with both situations but even then people just had fun with it.

What was the 100% full story that Gruden knew that was being bastardized by us and the media?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30318 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:21 pm to
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The reality here is that the offseason drama is likely enough for the #Raiders to void the $29M of salary guarantee. They can also go after the $1M signing bonus based on missed practices, etc… meaning Antonio Brown could then be released with $0 dead cap.


Yeah i'd just go ahead and do that now. cut your losses and move forward.
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