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Question for those supporting the Death Penalty for Penn State

Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:28 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:28 pm
Do you think the Catholic Church should have been shut down? Or at least just the parrishes where kids were abused? If not why not?

Why is it not good enough to just punish Sandusky and his enablers? No kids will be saved or protected in Penn State FB is shut down and a lot of people not even associated with Penn State (like other B1G teams for starters) will get screwed. Along with athletes at Penn State that clearly had nothing to do anything.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Do you think the Catholic Church should have been shut down?


Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Do you think the Catholic Church should have been shut down? Or at least just the parrishes where kids were abused? If not why not?


are the cathloic churchs where this happened part of a voluntary membership organization which can dole out such punishments as they see fit...like the NCAA can?

No, they aren't. But thanks for a bad analogy.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58545 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:35 pm to
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Do you think the Catholic Church should have been shut down?


I don't think the NCAA has authority over the Catholic Church. You're thinking of the NAACP.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:36 pm to
Who would shut them down? There's no NCAA type of association with the catholic church that I know of.

I'm catholic (well grew up catholic and still go to church at Christmas) but wouldn't be too bothered if they had shut some parishes but wouldn't it have to be the catholic church shutting them down not some other entity?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:36 pm to
I'm not in favor of the Death Penalty for PSU but... considering even the present Pope may have been involved with the child molestation scandal I can see arguing that the Catholic Church should be viewed as at least as culpable in their scandal as PSU was in the Sandusky scandal.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:38 pm to
Shutting down Penn State football will benefit no one other than media members like Nancy grace who feed on publicity over terrible situations like this. All football operations personel that served during the scandal have been removed. Penn st needs to move on the best they can and start over.
Posted by Sober Garcia
Member since Jul 2012
107 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:39 pm to
See people are so stupid. This was one man who was a former coach who was a sick pervert. That's 90% of it there. If he wasn't a former coach, and was a former security guard at the stadium or concessions clerk or some shite, this never would have come up.

This has nothing to do with the Athletic Department anymore. They Penn State athletic department (current coaches, players, personnel) didn't touch these boys. They didn't cover it up. Buncha damn idiots want to punish the whole school, student body, and community because of the action of a 10 or so individuals. Idiots.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:41 pm to
they're already going to be punished enough watching the Nittany Lions average 4 wins the next ten seasons
Posted by Sober Garcia
Member since Jul 2012
107 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:45 pm to
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Shutting down Penn State football will benefit no one other than media members like Nancy grace who feed on publicity over terrible situations like this. All football operations personel that served during the scandal have been removed. Penn st needs to move on the best they can and start over.



This. People keep digging for a scandal just so they can keep overdramatizing it. I mean seriously. All the parties involved with this case are either going to jail, dead, or out of their position. Leave well enough alone and start focusing on the real problems in the world.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
24254 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:45 pm to
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This has nothing to do with the Athletic Department anymore



You couldn't be more wrong. I can assure you, PSU Board will be overlooking every action with a microscope, to the point of being a distraction now to ensure their good name is restored.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1427 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 3:58 pm to
To use the correct analogy, the Catholic Church would act as the NCAA on individual churches. Yes, the Catholic Church should have punished the individual churches that allowed this behavior. The effect would be the same. The players, coaches, admins, would find other places to play and work and the people who attend church would find another church to attend. Religion and football do not end with closure of one facility, it just goes in a different direction.

The NCAA MUST DO SOMETHING. They will lose a lot of credibility if they do not. You can not punish a program if a coach decides to ignore a player receiving illegal benefits if you do not punish a program that allowed a culture of child molestation to take place in the football facilities of the university.

Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:02 pm to
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Shutting down Penn State football will benefit no one other than media members like Nancy grace who feed on publicity over terrible situations like this. All football operations personel that served during the scandal have been removed. Penn st needs to move on the best they can and start over.


Exactly.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:02 pm to
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The NCAA MUST DO SOMETHING. They will lose a lot of credibility if they do not. You can not punish a program if a coach decides to ignore a player receiving illegal benefits if you do not punish a program that allowed a culture of child molestation to take place in the football facilities of the university.



Fine them $10,000,000.
Posted by Sober Garcia
Member since Jul 2012
107 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:06 pm to
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The NCAA MUST DO SOMETHING. They will lose a lot of credibility if they do not. You can not punish a program if a coach decides to ignore a player receiving illegal benefits if you do not punish a program that allowed a culture of child molestation to take place in the football facilities of the university.



Lol you think that the PSU Board of Trustees, President, Athletic Director and Joe Paterno were encouraging Sandusky to use the football facilities of to molest boys? Damn you are stupid. Hell even if they did, that's not what the NCAA governs.

They govern the rules of play and player conduct for sports. A former coach molesting young boys is not now nor has it ever been in their jurisdiction. They have no card to play here. It's a legal matter outside of their control as well it should be.

Seriously, learn something before you make an arse out of yourself with your teenage emotional reaction.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:07 pm to
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They Penn State athletic department didn't touch these boys. They didn't cover it up.


you've gone full retard.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:09 pm to
So then how do you feel about current NCAA punishments for schools who have players/coaches that commit violations? Are you outraged that guys who didn't participate in cheating at those schools are punished with post-season bans and etc?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:09 pm to
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Why is it not good enough to just punish Sandusky and his enablers? No kids will be saved or protected in Penn State FB is shut down and a lot of people not even associated with Penn State (like other B1G teams for starters) will get screwed. Along with athletes at Penn State that clearly had nothing to do anything.


They don't like these questions, by the way. Gets in the way of the bloodlust.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:10 pm to
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So then how do you feel about current NCAA punishments for schools who have players/coaches that commit violations? Are you outraged that guys who didn't participate in cheating at those schools are punished with post-season bans and etc?


I know I am. And I know that H-Town and I discussed this with another group of posters in an earlier PSU thread.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58545 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:10 pm to
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Sober Garcia



You're not a very good troll.
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