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re: QB play in the NFL just shows you how good the 2010s were.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:29 pm to lsupride87
Lmao yea man 2 high safeties, cover 3 and cover 4 were invented last year
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:29 pm to Madking
quote:Did you read the OP? Are you following anything?
Well I didn’t call Joe Flacco elite so now you’re making straw men but it is hilarious that you think Hurts is elite, who I like as a player btw.
He called Flacco elite. I never said hurts was elite man
I said if you want to put Flacco as elite you have to call players like hurts elite Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:29 pm to Madking
quote:Are you drunk drunk?
Lmao yea man 2 high safeties, cover 3 and cover 4 were invented last year
quote:
The percentage of two-high safety looks on passing attempts in the NFL has increased from 44% in 2019 to 63% in 2024
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:30 pm to lsufball19
Is it dumb to reference his career 56% completion, 7 yards per attempt, 80 passer rating, and 1.5/1 td/int ratio?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:30 pm to lsupride87
And? Did I create the OP? You’re flailing my guy
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:31 pm to Madking
Want to talk about modern stats yet ignore actual defensive stats
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:32 pm to Madking
Holy strawman. I didn’t argue any of that, and his stats are bad compared to elite players from the same timeframe.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:32 pm to lsupride87
5-6 years ago? Most of those QBs were retired by then
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:33 pm to Madking
quote:And 2 deep safeties was played EVEN LESS then
5-6 years ago? Most of those QBs were retired by then
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
In the 2010s you had 4 elite QBs, and 5-6 rotating Good QBs
It’s the exact same now.
It’s the exact same now.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:43 pm to lsufball19
quote:What about comparing his stats to his peers?
comparing raw stats of QBs from Vick's prime to now is dumb
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:43 pm to lsupride87
Link? I mean let’s just ignore the fact that yeahs were using fullbacks and under center a lot more then but you’d have to understand football.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:54 pm to sp22
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Is it dumb to reference his career 56% completion, 7 yards per attempt, 80 passer rating, and 1.5/1 td/int ratio?
when comparing him to a QB in 2024, yes
Vick's "prime" was arguably 2004-2006. He also had 2500 rushing yards over those three seasons and averaged 7.4 ypc on those attempts. Posting all his passing numbers without mentioning what made him so unique and great in that era is being intentionally intellectually dishonest. And just for the record, I've never said he wasn't overrated, but your arguments are still bad
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:55 pm to lsupride87
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What about comparing his stats to his peers?
that's fine, but that's not what he did.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:55 pm to Madking
quote:NO
Link? I mean let’s just ignore the fact that yeahs were using fullbacks and under center a lot more then but you’d have to understand football.
shite
Offense establishes system
Defense adjusts
Offense then finds a way to exploit adjustment
It’s literally the same exact thing that will always happen
When offenses started attacking more and spreading the ball out versus the more prominent running game, defenses then adjusted to more two high coverages
Now offenses are adjusting to that and running it more again
It’s not a secret
Hell last season Mahomes faced 2 high safeties 92% of his snaps. That’s wild Denver literally did it as well against Buffalo last week and just accepted getting throat fricked for 400 yards and 31 pts on the ground and short passes.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
Moving the goal post again. What a shocker
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:18 pm to Madking
quote:Man I’m going to leave you alone. You are thoroughly lost
Moving the goal post again. What a shocker
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:23 pm to collegefootballisbroken
The peak Qb play of Rodgers, Brees, manning, and Brady in early 2010s are not even matched in today's Qb play.
Hell, that's ignoring guys like Matt Ryan and Phillip rivers who were borderline elite/elite numbers too.
Hell, that's ignoring guys like Matt Ryan and Phillip rivers who were borderline elite/elite numbers too.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:24 pm to lsupride87
You can’t use stats calling them irrefutable then when they don’t support your position say “muh reasons”. Thats a double standard my dude
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:27 pm to htran90
quote:Tell me why you think it’s better than Allen, Mahomes, burrow, and Lamar and then show me some metrics to defend it
The peak Qb play of Rodgers, Brees, manning, and Brady in early 2010s are not even matched in today's Qb play.
Not being a dick but I’m interested to see the thought process
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