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re: Programs that are really on a "decline"
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:47 pm to emoney
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:47 pm to emoney
quote:I feel like all these programs just had a few years of success and are returning to normal now (except maybe Cal)
Miami (OH)
Hawaii
California
Rutgers
Purdue
not really a decline, just restoration of order
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Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:47 pm to baytiger
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Georgia's not declining. They're in the same position they've been since Richt got there... second or third best team in the east with an occasional east title.
Yeah we averaged 8 wins
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:49 pm to dawgfan24348
It doesn't even make sense. Richt has been at UGA for 13 years. The east division only fricking existed for 9 years before he got there
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:50 pm to Bench McElroy
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Texas A&M
Virginia Tech
Michigan
Aggies had one good year and now are back to the levels they were pre-Manziel. I don't feel like coming down from an outlier is really a decline.
VT is a good one. Beamer had a great run but is going the way of Bowden. Game is passing him by.
Michigan isn't declining. They bottomed out under Rich Rod and are experiencing a 2008 stockmarket-esque recovery (either really slow or not really a recovery)
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:50 pm to benhamin5555
My top 5
Arkansas- The were #3 in the nation playing #1 LSU in the regular season finale, they have won 2 SEC games since then.
Colorado- In 2005 Gary Barrent won the Big 12 North for the 4th time in five years. He was let go before the bowl game. Mike Hankwitz, Dan Hawkins, Brian Cabral, Jon Embree, and Mike MacIntyre have all served as HC since Barrent and CU has yet to have a winning season.
Tennessee- Lane Kiffen has been hired& fired out West and he still the last Vol coach to have a winning season. Their last bowl win was the game after they lost the SECCG to a Ryan Perrilloux led LSU team.
West Virginia- After beating the tar out of Clemson in the Orange Bowl they are 11-14; half of those games were with the Tavon Austin & Geno Smith.
Virginia- After Al Groh took Virginia to 5 bowl games in six years, Virginia has had 5 losing seasons in six years, didn't win an ACC game.
Arkansas- The were #3 in the nation playing #1 LSU in the regular season finale, they have won 2 SEC games since then.
Colorado- In 2005 Gary Barrent won the Big 12 North for the 4th time in five years. He was let go before the bowl game. Mike Hankwitz, Dan Hawkins, Brian Cabral, Jon Embree, and Mike MacIntyre have all served as HC since Barrent and CU has yet to have a winning season.
Tennessee- Lane Kiffen has been hired& fired out West and he still the last Vol coach to have a winning season. Their last bowl win was the game after they lost the SECCG to a Ryan Perrilloux led LSU team.
West Virginia- After beating the tar out of Clemson in the Orange Bowl they are 11-14; half of those games were with the Tavon Austin & Geno Smith.
Virginia- After Al Groh took Virginia to 5 bowl games in six years, Virginia has had 5 losing seasons in six years, didn't win an ACC game.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:53 pm to TigerintheNO
We are the new duke of the acc. It's ridiculous with the amount of talent in VA and emphasis we place on our overall athletic program. How can literally every program be above average but our football program be so putrid
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:56 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:
Yeah we averaged 8 wins
so I looked back at Georgia's SEC East finishes, and they're actually a little better than I thought.
quote:
2013 3
2012 1
2011 1
2010 3
2009 2
2008 2
2007 1
2006 3
2005 1
2004 2
winning the East 4 of the last 10 years isn't too shabby
but I was arguing that you're not in a decline, and those numbers just reinforce my argument
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:57 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:can you really say Arkansas is on a decline when they went 0-8 in the SEC this year?
Arkansas- The were #3 in the nation playing #1 LSU in the regular season finale, they have won 2 SEC games since then.
Sure it's a fast decline but right now they've gotta be on the bottom of it
right?
right???
Posted on 12/3/13 at 8:59 pm to TulaneUVA
Virginia like Colorado has been so bad for such a period that people tend for forget about them.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:03 pm to baytiger
quote:
Sure it's a fast decline but right now they've gotta be on the bottom of it right? right???
I don't know, if I had to bet, I would bet against them making a bowl next year. They are dead last in the West in recruiting for the 3rd year in a row, this year they are even behind Kentucky. Until their coach wins a conference game, I'm not sure where they are at.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:10 pm to baytiger
Tennessee won the East in 07.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:11 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:
Virginia like Colorado has been so bad for such a period that people tend for forget about them.
Colorado deserves it (and then some).
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:18 pm to benhamin5555
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Oregon- I think they reached their peak with Chip Kelly. People have figured out their offense it seems and I don't see them reaching their former success.
quote:
Stanford- Another team that seems to have reached its peak with Jim Harbaugh and Andrew Luck. This one I'm not so sure about but I don't see Stanford hanging around with the elite programs long term.
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Georgia- Yet another season of unmet expectations for the Bulldogs. Mark Richt's seat has to be getting hot
quote:
decline
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:19 pm to TigerintheNO
You people saying Florida really have no clue about what you are talking about.
We went 11-2 last year, and was a ND loss against USC or Pitt away from a NCG apperance. Now we have played and coached like a trash fire this year( mainly due to injuries and a terrible OC), but make no mistake that we will right the ship.
Actual programs on the decline:
Texas/OU: Increasing instate competition and laziness has eliminated their advantage in the B12, and has OSU and Baylor to now run that conference.
VT: Frank Beamer has built that program, but he has now run it's course.
USC: CSS isn't the hire to bring them back imo. Oregon, UCLA, ARizona, and ASU are all legit programs now, and USC is going to find hard to overcome all of them again.
UT/Nebraska: Lack of instate talent plus terrible coach have doomed these two programs. Pelini needs to go imo. Too early to judge Jones on one year.
Michigan: They suffer the same thing Florida suffers from: Lack of a dynamic QB. People were shitting on Robinson while he was there, but Gardner is actually worse than he is. And why do they not have a legit defense yet little brother Michigan St. seems to have one every year?
West Virginia/TCU: The Move to the Big-12 has only hurt these schools who used to rule their previous conferences. It's only year two though.
We went 11-2 last year, and was a ND loss against USC or Pitt away from a NCG apperance. Now we have played and coached like a trash fire this year( mainly due to injuries and a terrible OC), but make no mistake that we will right the ship.
Actual programs on the decline:
Texas/OU: Increasing instate competition and laziness has eliminated their advantage in the B12, and has OSU and Baylor to now run that conference.
VT: Frank Beamer has built that program, but he has now run it's course.
USC: CSS isn't the hire to bring them back imo. Oregon, UCLA, ARizona, and ASU are all legit programs now, and USC is going to find hard to overcome all of them again.
UT/Nebraska: Lack of instate talent plus terrible coach have doomed these two programs. Pelini needs to go imo. Too early to judge Jones on one year.
Michigan: They suffer the same thing Florida suffers from: Lack of a dynamic QB. People were shitting on Robinson while he was there, but Gardner is actually worse than he is. And why do they not have a legit defense yet little brother Michigan St. seems to have one every year?
West Virginia/TCU: The Move to the Big-12 has only hurt these schools who used to rule their previous conferences. It's only year two though.
This post was edited on 12/3/13 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:23 pm to jefffan
quote:You can't deny that the offense has been no where near the quality that it could be. UF's defense has been gritty and where it should be.
We went 11-2 last year, and was a ND loss against USC or Pitt away from a NCG apperance. Now we have played and coached like a trash fire this year( mainly due to injuries and a terrible OC), but make no mistake that we will right the ship.
But to reference last year is a bit of joke. It's EXTREMELY rare for a program with no offense to achieve what UF did last year.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:40 pm to Ostrich
quote:
I'm surprised penn state hasn't been mentioned yet.
Also, Nebraska, Boise state, michigan, and tennessee
these are the correct answers IMO. All (save Boise) were once among the nation's greatest programs and most of those now face uphill battles in terms of recruiting and a leveled playing field for program exposure
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:41 pm to benhamin5555
ULL
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:47 pm to molsusports
The decline of Nebraska & Tennessee shouldn't surprise anyone. Michigan is still trying to change their philosophy around.
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:48 pm to lsuhunt555
Oklahoma has been just as consistent, if not more so, than LSU. Since 2000 they have won their conference 8 times. LSU has 3 conference titles in that same time period. They have been to 8 BCS games in that time period. LSU has been to 5. Of those 8 BCS appearances, 4 of them were made in the national title game. LSU has appeared in the national title game 3 times. Granted LSU has won more national titles over that time period (2 vs. 1).
Posted on 12/3/13 at 9:51 pm to benhamin5555
USC? Maybe.
But I have no clue how you can say ORE,STAN and UGA are declining. Declining from what??
But I have no clue how you can say ORE,STAN and UGA are declining. Declining from what??
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