re: Pretty amazing Brady/Patriots stat

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Facts:
Patriots without Tom Brady = 11-5
Colts without Peyton Manning = 2-14

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Tom Brady has 7 TDs and 9 INTs in 7 career AFC Championships.

The Patriots are 5-2 in those games.

SO CLUTCH

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So only Super Bowl losses count. Not making it to the Super Bowl is not considered a loss. Look Brady is awesome, but spygate happened and they haven't won the Super Bowl since, before that they were winning what felt like every year. IMO Brady is a better QB after the rings than while he was winning them. Its been 10 years since they won one.

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I love the people that make a big deal about Spygate, because it's painfully obvious you don't know dick about defensive playcalls and how often callouts are changed up in a game. It is still, and always will be, assumed teams are stealing signals, so they will literally be changed half to half, hell sometimes play to play.

Teams also have access to the all-22s, which will inform you a billion times more the tendencies of a defense. The idea that Belichick/staffer would be able to read a play call/adjustment across the field, tell his own players about it, and have the perfect play set up for it is not only laughable, it's so incredibly ignorant on how the game works that your opinion is invalid.

Here is a pretty amazing Manning stat

If the Broncos win this Sunday, it will make his 3rd trip to the Super Bowl with his 3rd different head coach

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If the Broncos win this Sunday, it was make his 3rd trip to the Super Bowl with his 3rd different head coach

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This hasn't been said enough. Also the guy came back from neck surgery, completely changed his game on the fly with a new set of WRs, and there has been zero dropoff of play. I have gained so much respect for Peyton through these last two years, and what he has done is beyond remarkable. As far as pure stats and mechanics, it's not even a question for me that Peyton is better than Tom Brady. I personally believe Tom makes up that ground on intangibles, but Peyton has mentored this group of young WRs to become insanely productive.

People that constantly argue Peyton vs. Manning are completely missing the point. We are lucky to see two of the best football players to ever step on the same field compete against eachother.

Bill>>>>Brady

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love the people that make a big deal about Spygate, because it's painfully obvious you don't know dick about defensive playcalls and how often callouts are changed up in a game. It is still, and always will be, assumed teams are stealing signals, so they will literally be changed half to half, hell sometimes play to play.

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Painfully obvious?? Sorry o great defensive mind of tiger droppings. Many coaches and players in the NFL have commented on this. Not just me. Hell it was mentioned on a pregame show just last Sunday when discussing Brady and Bellechecks legacy. I know you think you are more of a football mind than John Harbaugh, but you are not.

I did not say it defintitely decided a game. Who could ever know that. They did what they did and it was against the rules. They just kept on doing in for no reason since it had no benefit. I never said they were reading every play, but who is to say it did not impact one play in one game. One play can make a huge difference. For anyone to say 100% that it did or did not have an impact, and act like that is a black and white fact is naive. No one knows except a few people that aren't going to say.

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We know the Patriots were cheaters, and we know that they haven't won anything since they've stopped cheating.

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You do realize they weren't the only team doing this. Just the one who got caught. Just like the saints and the bounty bullshite.

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Brady had a 30 year old Moss who was declining and all of a sudden had his best career year with Brady. wonder why that is?

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Hmm...I don't know, maybe everyone and their mom knew that he didn't give a flying frick when he was stuck in the black hole of the nfl.

Even Rice said Moss was a physical marvel and if Moss put in the same amount of effort that Rice did, Moss would've blown away every record that Rice held. Physical marvels don't just happen to 'lose it all at 30' and is revitalized by a top 5 QB.

Since Moss was on the decline, how come Brady has never had a season comparable to his '07 season? Since Moss sucked so bad and Brady made him awesome again, how come Brady couldn't do that with another receiver when Moss left/quit on the team?