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Plate block rule in Twins Blue Jays game.

Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:45 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:45 am
Happened yesterday but for the third time this week, New York over turns an out call at home due to the illegal plate block rule. The latest arguably gave the blue jays the win vs the Twins.

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Close call sports one of my favorite YouTube channels commented on the play and ejection.

Close call sports

This rule also came up in the Pittsburgh and Baltimore game LINK

And finally the Colorado and SD game. LINK

I think we need clarification on this rule. I get protecting the catcher but I feel they are giving too many advantages to the runner.

Thoughts?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:54 am to
I f*cking hate this rule. Let’s go back to the Pete Rose/Ray Fosse way of playing baseball. If a catcher wants to block the plate, just run the motherf*cker over. Same goes with taking out a second baseman or shortstop on a double play ball.

One of the things I think this rule takes away from is the idea of hook slides. If you look at the play, odds are he would’ve been safe just doing a traditional hook slide. But with the new rule he knows he can go right into the catcher and be safe even if he’s out.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 7:44 am
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
8564 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:20 am to
I don’t watch baseball but you can’t block any other base so why allow home plate?
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89873 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:30 am to
quote:

you can’t block any other base so why allow home plate?


Because that’s where a run is counted when touched AND, unlike the other three bases, you’re no longer interfering with the runner, as there are no more bases to advance to.

I agree with Mauler. If a catcher wants to block the plate, then prepared to get trucked.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27535 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:30 am to
I saw that play last night and thought nothing wrong with what the catcher did. If that throw was a nanosecond later, or earlier we would not have this discussion. I thought the catcher was in a good position.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:37 am to
They have put players and umps in an impossible situation trying to call these plays correctly. It's too hard to call a play like this with how they have designed the rule.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24742 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:45 am to
quote:


Because that’s where a run is counted when touched AND, unlike the other three bases, you’re no longer interfering with the runner, as there are no more bases to advance to.


The catcher is blocking the path TO homeplate, not after home plate.

Should knock the catcher's head off when he blocks it.
Posted by Lakefront-Tiger
Da Lakefront
Member since Nov 2004
5916 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:50 am to
If the throw in ON the plate, where is the catcher supposed to go?
I get the intent of the rule, but there's obviously a need to tweak it.
The train coming through argument to go back to Ty Cobb spiking people is stupid too.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13533 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:11 am to
quote:

the illegal plate block rule.
Buster Posey rule
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51283 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:14 am to
An overreaction to the Buster Posey play
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89873 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:18 am to
quote:

The catcher is blocking the path TO homeplate, not after home plate.


Correct.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89873 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:19 am to
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An overreaction to the Buster Posey play


Exactly.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:01 am to
The Posey play was an example of a guy intentionally trucking the catcher, in the play the guy could have slid into the plate and would have been safe.

I think the rule should read, any intentional collision with the catcher will be an automatic out.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1544 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:08 am to
quote:

They have put players and umps in an impossible situation trying to call these plays correctly. It's too hard to call a play like this with how they have designed the rule.


This is the issue. Historically, baseball has done a good job of keeping the rules very black and white. This rule looks like something the NFL would come up with
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14167 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:15 am to
The days of nine car pileups at home plate are over and I have no problem with this one. There have been some serious collisions and for what? If the ball beats the runner then tag him out just like they do at other bases. But often a catcher would block the plate because he knew the runner was ahead of the ball or it looked like a tie. That has hurt many a good player.

I can still see Bo Jackson making an example out of Rick Dempsey. What was crazy about that play, was the ball was there in plenty of time to just make a sweeping tag. Instead, he blocked the plate and made the tag, and received all 235 lbs of Bo coming at the speed of light. Why? The best I can figure, that's what catchers were trained to do. Took a lot of training to stand in front of Bo.

Don't block the plate, it's illegal and unhealthy.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17032 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:24 am to
Looks like the right call to me.

Catcher is completely blocking the plate.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34674 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:09 am to
Watching Glenallen Hill blow up Mike Piazza was one of the pleasures of my life.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16446 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:18 am to
The rule should be catcher must have both feet in front of plate . Catch and sweep tag if you can. Feet Position should be the key
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24742 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:29 am to
Yep, I was a catcher from little league through dixie league and babe ruth as well as high school. Played many years in serious baseball.

I always stood on the pitcher's side of the plate for plays at home. Blocking the plate shouldn't be allowed.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15761 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:24 pm to
Baseball would be so much better if you could block the runner from every base. A 10th fielder just for that.

And runners should be called out if the fielder hits them with the ball on a throw from outfield.
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