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re: Phillies and Astros agree on trade for Oswalt..

Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:47 am to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:47 am to
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But number 3 is a slap in the face to Roy
He'd only be the third starter on a few teams... St. Louis, San Francisco, Tampa Bay..
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:50 am to
Hahaha Houston is sending Philly $10+ million too. What a joke.
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:54 am to
They dumped Lee because his contract was expiring and the rumor was he was going to ask for big bucks. Oswalt said he was willing to restructure his contract to go to a winner.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:57 am to
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Hahaha Houston is sending Philly $10+ million too. What a joke.
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It looks like a deal has been agreed upon to send Roy Oswalt to Philadelphia with pitcher J.A. Happ and first baseman John Singleton as the centerpieces.

The teams are now waiting for Oswalt to okay the deal and waive his no-trade clause. Happ is a young, price-controlled pitcher that has pitched above his peripherals, and Singleton is an 18-year-old mashing in Single-A. If only the Astros weren't picking up a "very significant" portion of Oswalt's remaining deal, this might be a good haul.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30368 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 11:43 am to
I don't care how much money Drayton has to spend as long as the Astros get one high caliber prospect in return. They have to continue to build the system back up. It has come a long way it just two years, but there is still work to be done.

As for Happ, he would be a decent fill-in for the next couple of years when the team isn't contending. He shouldn't be considered the centerpiece of any deal between these two. The Astros aren't going to make noise in any races until the young pitchers (Lyles, Bushue, Folty, etc) come up and start to take over. By the time hopefully Happ will have already been traded.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
11953 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 11:45 am to
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Drayton
Seeing this on MLBtraderumors.com scared the crap out of me
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Astros owner Drayton McLane has been negotiating directly with Phillies president David Montgomery
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103438 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 11:46 am to
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Astros owner Drayton McLane has been negotiating directly with Phillies president David Montgomery
Hopefully this is about the money involved, not the players.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
11953 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 12:23 pm to
If the Astros do send 11 million and do not end up with Singleton or a top pitching prospect then the front office will look like some simpletons here.....
Posted by WreckinRams05
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2005
6354 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 12:50 pm to
MLB gurus can i get a scouting report on the players the astros would be receiving
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36999 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:09 pm to
As a Cardinals fan I'm glad the Phillies haven't quite figured out what their philosophy is

If Oswalt is his former self the rest of the year they just got a lot better... but why make a move on him when they didn't keep Lee?

Yesterday I felt like teh Cardinals and Reds were locks for the postseason because of their remaining schedules... but the east (after the top two) is soft enough for the Phillies/Braves to take a wild card
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103438 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:13 pm to
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If Oswalt is his former self the rest of the year they just got a lot better...
He has 15 QS out of 20 this season, the 3.42 ERA isn't even too high above his career mark, and his WHIP and BAA are better than his career marks. If he just keeps on pitching how he has this season, the Phillies get a lot better.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
94672 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:15 pm to
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but why make a move on him when they didn't keep Lee?


because they knew that move was a completely frick up and felt they needed to redeem themselves with a quality name.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94672 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:17 pm to
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Hahaha Houston is sending Philly $10+ million too. What a joke.


How is it a joke? There's no salary cap. There's no guidelines to follow to pay a player. Get rid of Oswalt however possible for quality bats. With what I've read about Singleton, he looks to be a good one in the future.

By the time he comes up, that $10M will be an afterthought.

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36999 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:19 pm to
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because they knew that move was a completely frick up and felt they needed to redeem themselves with a quality name.



I agree

I just don't get it

The Phillies are the only well run franchise in the NL that will spend some money... how they let Lee go kinda boggles my mind
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
101863 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:43 pm to
i keep hearing that the trade is for happ, a pitcher named worley and an outfielder gose. i would hate that trade. happ is 28, gose is basically bourn. hes hitting .260 at A ball with over 100 strikeouts and a bunch of steals. Plus if there is any position that the Astros awful farm system has some depth its outfield. if the phillies get oswalt and 11 million dollars plus they keep singleton then the astros got hosed and ed wade needs to be run out of town.
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:51 pm to
It's a joke because they're giving Oswalt to Philly, paying a ton of his salary anyway, and getting very little in return.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94672 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:53 pm to
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It's a joke because they're giving Oswalt to Philly, paying a ton of his salary anyway, and getting very little in return.




No one even knows what they're getting in return. If they get Haap and Singleton in return, I'm happy. Do some research before you bitch and complain/flame.
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
11311 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:55 pm to
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if the phillies get oswalt and 11 million dollars plus they keep singleton then the astros got hosed and ed wade needs to be run out of town.


this.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31020 posts
Posted on 7/29/10 at 1:55 pm to
Rumor is Happ, Villar or Worley, Gose.

If they don't part with Singleton, I'd be very happy.

I pity the Braves..ugh..urgh!!

This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 2:03 pm
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