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re: PGA Tour to merge with LIV Golf

Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:23 am to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:23 am to
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If that doesn’t show you how dead LIv and their management is I don’t know what does


LIV is PIF, just under a corporate name. PIF has 93% ownership. Al-Rumayyan is the defacto Chairman of the Board of LIV. I would not be so quick to say it is dead.

I would bet that Al-Rumayyan uses LIV to establish a presence in new spots around the world, work out some kinks in how tournaments are played and managed, and then ends up merging the best of LIV with the best of the PGA Tour.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88894 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:25 am to
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work out some kinks in how tournaments are played
Like what?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39145 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:26 am to
But, you maintain there's going to be a process to "allow" LIV players back in the game by this BoD - as if Brooks and DJ have any possibility of being excluded.
How did you put it? Oh, yeah, "I’m sure the crown prince would be thrilled with excluding one (some) of the most prominent and biggest draws in all of golf after he spent billions."
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:27 am to
Yes, there will be a process that allowed the back. It’s literally written in the initial dealings

Question, do you think it was childish, or even outlandish for a liv executive to say what he did about Rory there? It’s just ridiculous
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88894 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:31 am to
They’ll gloss over that because these people are rooting for chaos and for LIV.

Why? I’ll never know.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9536 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:33 am to
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They’ll gloss over that because these people are rooting for chaos and for LIV.

Why? I’ll never know.


They must hate America and aren't very patriotic.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9063 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:34 am to
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Like what?


Maybe the team events, some 54 hole tournaments, maybe paying appearance fees for top golfers, match play....I don't have those answers. They need to make adjustments to make it appealing for a tv audience. Having the best players from all tours able to play is step 1.

I'm saying I would be surprised if LIV is just shut down immediately after all of the investment Al-Rumayyan personally has in the venture plus the money. I think he uses it go expand the game into new arenas. Isn't that what he set out to do originally?

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:03 am to
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I'm saying I would be surprised if LIV is just shut down immediately after all of the investment Al-Rumayyan personally has in the venture plus the money.

Personally, I think this was Al-Rumayyan's long game to get a seat at the table on the PGA Tour. Spending a couple of billion for that end result is nothing to him. He could fold up LIV tomorrow, go back to business as usual on the PGA Tour, and he basically spent a couple billion dollars to own the PGA Tour. That seems like a hell of a deal. The Saudis have been playing the same types of games in the international soccer circuit too.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88894 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:10 am to
Exactly.

They might be, so I’m genuinely asking, but are they out here fundamentally changing the other sports they’re investing in and buy up? It seems like they’re spending the money to get the access and then letting the leagues go on with business as usual.

Which, whatever, ok I guess.

I just don’t understand these posters rooting for things to get blown up or why they’re cheering on the PGA Tour getting absolutely butt fricked by money and interests outside of golf.

It’s like they’re just over here going “HA Ha, y’all got OWNED!” Why the shite would anyone root for that?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57098 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:10 am to
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They must hate America and aren't very patriotic


Redhawk:

Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32732 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:14 am to
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Question, do you think it was childish, or even outlandish for a liv executive to say what he did about Rory there? It’s just ridiculous

can we just claim you didn't read the article and pretend like it didn't happen? you know, like you've done with the "a PGA Pro told Rory to eff off" comments?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:15 am to
But a pga pro did say that, and my entire point was TO LUSTEN TO THE INTERVIEW to actual get more info. So I did literally, the exact opposite of saying to ignore it.

Your side is let’s accept any news we here as pro LIv as 100% fact, and ignore absolutely anything else
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:18 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57098 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:17 am to
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But a pga pro did say that, and my entire point was TO LUSTEN TO THE INTERVIEW to actual get more info

Wesley Bryan was downplaying the event you didn’t even know occurred. Several reports that Rory received a VERY robust negative response to his comment to Grayson.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32732 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:17 am to
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But a pga pro did say that,
glad you finally admitted it to me. BBONDS will be pleased that you finally STFU about everything el..
quote:

and my entire point was TO LUSTEN TO THE INTERVIEW to actual get more info

Your side is let’s accept any news we here as pro LIv as 100% fact, and ignore absolutely anything else
nevermind
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9063 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:24 am to
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Personally, I think this was Al-Rumayyan's long game to get a seat at the table on the PGA Tour. Spending a couple of billion for that end result is nothing to him. He could fold up LIV tomorrow, go back to business as usual on the PGA Tour,


I don't disagree with that possibility at all. I just don't think he will fold it immediately, if only for the optics.

Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32732 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:24 am to
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Your side is let’s accept any news we here as pro LIv as 100% fact, and ignore absolutely anything else

You don't even see the irony of this post, do you?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:29 am to
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I just don’t understand these posters rooting for things to get blown up or why they’re cheering on the PGA Tour getting absolutely butt fricked by money and interests outside of golf.
They can’t answer it because the truth is they are just housewives that like drama

Show me all the threads pre 2022 where these posters were claiming golf needed wholsale changes and the product was poor.Show them. The truth is those threads don’t exist, but the exact opposite does. There were threads galore on how strong golf was and how the pga was better than ever

So it’s a complete lie to act like they wanted anything more than drama. Bonds will come in here and talk about lay and financials, but how is that anything related to the fans? What does that have to do with him? And where were all his complaints on the pga and their payouts before 2022?
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26497 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:34 am to
Chamblee on Rich Eisen right now.

Full PGA shill mode.

"They had no chance against Saudi $$"

"This Saudi doesn't know anything about golf"

"Liv was tired or paying $25M purses when nobody was watching"

"Narcasistic greed is why liv ppl left"

"They didn't help the game"

"They're not philanthropistic like PGA players"

"unconsianable human rights atrocities"

"Monohan is not to blame... It's Mickelson, Brooks. Etc greed"

"PGA will lose its precious nonprofit status"
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108566 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:39 am to
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"PGA will lose its precious nonprofit status"
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They're not philanthropistic like PGA players" "unconsianable human rights atrocities"
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They had no chance against Saudi $$" "This Saudi doesn't know anything about golf" "Liv was tired or paying $25M purses when nobody was watching"
All clear truths no matter which side you are on
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9063 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 11:39 am to
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Full PGA shill mode


Actually, he is shilling for himself now. The PGA Tour does not agree with his statements anymore.
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