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re: PFF ranking of college QB rooms for 2025
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:17 am to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:17 am to ReauxlTide222
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Both those guys should play really well this year.
Huh
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:27 am to Gen Patton
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He got the Bama Bump only because Bama stole him from SMU, is anyone really fooled by this?
You should research more. Keelon Russell was a consensus five-star pick and was also named MVP of the Elite 11 quarterback camp.
Previous quarterbacks to have won the MVP award at the elite competition include former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, Ohio State quarterback CJ Stroud, and Heisman winner Caleb Williams.
Of the 32 starting quarterbacks in the NFL, 27 at least participated in the Elite 11 event.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 8:38 am to bamameister
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Previous quarterbacks to have won the MVP award at the elite competition include former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa, Ohio State quarterback CJ Stroud, and Heisman winner Caleb Williams.
Let’s be fair, that list also includes Shea Patterson, Rhett Bomar, Blake Barnett, Sean White and John Brantley
Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:22 am to wildtigercat93
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Let’s be fair, that list also includes Shea Patterson, Rhett Bomar, Blake Barnett, Sean White and John Brantley
We're talking credentials. So, to be "fair," list the credentials of the guys we are supposed to put in front of him. Otherwise, what makes Keelon any less of a prize recruit than the guys he beat out?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 12:53 pm to TackySweater
It’s unproven so I get it, but I’d be shocked if Ohio State’s QB room is actually anything lower than 5.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:01 pm to TackySweater
Was expecting many pics of these....
Lost my Urban Dictionary.
Literally.
Lost my Urban Dictionary.
Literally.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:04 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Yeah LSU’s QB room is scary. Both those guys should play really well this year.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:36 pm to TackySweater
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He certainly had some bad issues last season. Time will tell if he can correct that.
Last year his issues were because LSU had no running game and the OL was terrible. If that improves, he will be lights out this year. It’s almost impossible for them to be worse than last year. Nuss is a dawg.
Posted on 5/24/25 at 1:53 pm to TackySweater
Penn State? Really...?
Who does Notre Dame have? They've been relying a lot on the portal recently (Sam Hartman and Riley Leonard). Did they grab another portal player?
Who does Notre Dame have? They've been relying a lot on the portal recently (Sam Hartman and Riley Leonard). Did they grab another portal player?
Posted on 5/24/25 at 4:16 pm to slinger1317
You’re right about the “room” stuff. It’s real annoying.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:52 pm to bamameister
Sure, and ocean front property exists in Nebraska, I’ll never believe that yall flipping him from SMU when he was a 4 star didn’t cause a major bump in his recruiting outlook his senior year. Is he even going to be the backup to Ty this year? I’m hearing that he’s not doing so hot in the early going.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:24 pm to Lou Loomis
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Last year his issues were because LSU had no running game and the OL was terrible. If that improves, he will be lights out this year. It’s almost impossible for them to be worse than last year. Nuss is a dawg.
and the WR weren't great last year. Seemed like a lot of people who don't watch a lot of LSU just assumed the WRs were good because LSU always has good WRs but last year was pretty meh
Lacy was way overrated, may he rest in peace. Anderson got better. Hilton took a while to get his timing down
Recruiting and the portal should have helped that out a lot.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:40 pm to bamameister
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We're talking credentials. So, to be "fair," list the credentials of the guys we are supposed to put in front of him. Otherwise, what makes Keelon any less of a prize recruit than the guys he beat out?
The fact that he was a 3/4 star recruit when he originally committed to SMU then Bama poached him and he received that commensurate ranking bump by association
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:44 pm to Gen Patton
He threw 55 touchdowns and 4 interceptions playing in arguably the toughest division in HS football. He won the elite 11 MVP
What's more likely, that he is a 3 star talent and got a "bama bump" or that he was initially underranked by the recruiting services?
I thought y'all had gotten away from playing both sides of the fence when Saban retired.
For years every february there was the "bama bump" conspiracy, but then as soon as Bama lost a game it was "See, Saban isn't a good game day coach because they have more talent than anyone."
It can't be both
What's more likely, that he is a 3 star talent and got a "bama bump" or that he was initially underranked by the recruiting services?
I thought y'all had gotten away from playing both sides of the fence when Saban retired.
For years every february there was the "bama bump" conspiracy, but then as soon as Bama lost a game it was "See, Saban isn't a good game day coach because they have more talent than anyone."
It can't be both
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:46 pm to Gen Patton
quote:This guy is in for a rude awakening if Russell sticks it out at Alabama.
The fact that he was a 3/4 star recruit when he originally committed to SMU then Bama poached him and he received that commensurate ranking bump by association
My man, there’s a very good chance he’s VERY good.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 2:57 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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What's more likely, that he is a 3 star talent and got a "bama bump" or that he was initially underranked by the recruiting services?
Bama bump, the moment one gets associated with a brand like Saban’s Bama and the immediate residual effects post-Saban, their rankings and ceiling go through the roof regardless of whether it’s merited or not
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but then as soon as Bama lost a game it was "See, Saban isn't a good game day coach because they have more talent than anyone."
No one denies they still have elite talent despite the Bama Bump Russell received by switching his commitment to them and put pen to paper. IMO next to their talent during Saban which has translated well to the NFL (except QB), the Saban mystique of his sideline presence with them really contributed to the intimidation factor they exuded to opponents and opposing fans during that run. I believe Kalen receives some of the residual effects of Saban because his retirement was so recent but we’ll see whether that dissipates or sustains in the next couple of seasons.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:01 pm to ReauxlTide222
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This guy is in for a rude awakening if Russell sticks it out at Alabama. My man, there’s a very good chance he’s VERY good.
We’ll see, I’m interested. His senior year recruiting ranking, the Bama Bump in that ranking after he flipped from SMU, and the attention that attracts from Bama detractors will drive interest in people, Bama haters or not, watching him play if he gains that opportunity.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:07 pm to Gen Patton
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What's more likely, that he is a 3 star talent and got a "bama bump" or that he was initially underranked by the recruiting services?
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Bama bump
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:30 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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For years every february there was the "bama bump" conspiracy, but then as soon as Bama lost a game it was "See, Saban isn't a good game day coach because they have more talent than anyone."
The greatest coaches of all-time don’t always win every single game each season, sometimes the team’s flat, sometimes the team gets outplayed, sometimes an opposing coach implemented a gameplan with his talent that worked, it’s life in college football, bro
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:54 pm to Gen Patton
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Nuss is literally the nation's returning leading passer
Such a shame he’s going to get smoked like a pack of Kools week one. Clemson blowout by 3tds incoming.
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