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re: Per CFP Committee member, they choose final matchups based on who they predict will win

Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:51 am to
so did they think cincinnatti had a realistic chance of winning it when they put them in? (they 100% deserved to be there but had "no shot" of winning a game) This committee bullshite is ridiculous and needs to go away.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:51 am to
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Uhhhh, this thread has an article quoting this as one of the reasons your team got in over an unbeaten team.


The SEC championship game is irrelevant as the CFP Committee has nothing to do with that game. Try some of those gymnastics you keep whining about.
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Well, I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt.



Another condescending person making shite arguments. Love this place.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:51 am to
Every single human is wrong constantly about college football predictions. Yet, here you are, arguing what humans think should be the metric used to pick the teams. Just own it. Kirk owns it that’s his logic
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:52 am to
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So, a team that beat you was toast until your vaunted program won a game they weren’t favored in? Lololool


Try to keep up. Texas was getting sacrificed for FSU. They were not leaving them out for the very reason there are 100 new threads on the subject everyday around here.

BAMA is the gold standard of college football. They are now in their 8th Playoff since 2014. They belong to the BEST conference in college football. They came out of the BEST division in football. They beat the residing Kings of college football, giving them the BEST win of the season for any team. They were the only one loss team with the profile to make the committee pee their pants.

Texas was joined at the hip because of their win in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:53 am to
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Every single human is wrong constantly about college football predictions. Yet, here you are, arguing what humans think should be the metric used to pick the teams. Just own it. Kirk owns it that’s his logic



You'd never know you are wrong based on how you act. You ready to admit you were completely wrong in that thread the other day?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104135 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:55 am to
I 100% was wrong. I am WRONG all the time predicting football games. Kirk herbstreit, the best in the business, was WRONG 40% of the time picking games this year. 40%

Which is exactly why using “well we think” is ridiculous. But at least they admit that’s how they choose. You are trying to act like you aren’t doing it
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:57 am to
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. You are trying to act like you aren’t doing it



This is such a strange take where you try to get a victory. My take has been the SEC champ would not be left out because the resume would be better than FSU's. There is of course a "human element" to that take. It is all we can do as it is impossible for all teams to play equal schedules.

If you would like to try to claim that as some victory for you over me, go for it. Won't be the first and I'm sure it won't be the last nonsense argument you've invented to try to feel smart.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:00 am to
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Why not state that from the beginning instead of dropping FSU down at the last minute?

Because the rankings outside of the last week are largely irrelevant. Also, I think they were kinda hoping that FSU would lose and take the pressure off of having to move them down.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:01 am to
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Alabama could have 3 losses and they'll still find a way to get them in there because they COULD win any game


Like when Bama got in last year?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35239 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:06 am to
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But have they really done this? They used this argument to put alabama ahead of fsu. But if we're using that logic, does anyone really believe Washington, or Texas for that matter, is better than Georgia?

They probably looked at Alabama vs Georgia, Michigan vs Ohio State, and Oregon vs Washington as default playoff games.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:08 am to
The easiest counter to this is why wouldn't Georgia be included since they would be favored against all four teams who made it?
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:09 am to
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Texas was toast until BAMA flexed in the SECCG.



You keep saying this and yet

1-loss Big 12 Champion Texas beat 1-loss SEC Champion Alabama ...

... in Alabama's stadium

... by 2 scores

... by sacking Milroe 5 times and allowing ZERO sacks (not to mention all the QB pressures

... by completely dominating both sides of the line

... with a 2-to-0 turnover margin

... by running the ball for 7+ straight minutes

... by kneeling to end the game on your field

It wasn't a close game. It was a beatdown in your own damn stadium.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:09 am to
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My take has been the SEC champ would not be left out

They were never going to leave out a 1 loss SEC champ in order to put in an ACC champion missing it's best player. That wasn't a thing that was going to happen and it was kinda absurd to think that it was.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
15857 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:11 am to
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Have they heard of upsets?


I have. They are posting all over the board taking this matter personally.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:17 am to
I'd like to see what Vegas says the UGA vs Washington/Texas/Michigan line would be.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
31334 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:22 am to
Then uga should be in. I’d favor them everyone but bama and Texas.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101765 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:30 am to
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These people are fricking clowns. This is without a doubt the worst possible way anyone could come up with to sus out who is the National champion.


Pretty much.

March Madness is seeded like this and is controversial as hell as a result.

The CFP members making a statement like this is dumb as frick because it acknowledges that it is very subjective who gets in as opposed to having mostly objective measures with a mild amount of input.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:31 am to
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Texas was toast until BAMA flexed in the SECCG.


You keep saying this



That number 8 seed win over BAMA was only getting Texas so far. It never would have the muscle to get over an undefeated FSU with a healthy QB. Sorry. Not with the Big 12 schedule and a very average Oklahoma getting you in the Red River Rivalry.

dude.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:31 am to
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"All of us had the emotional tie, like, 'Holy s---, this is really going to suck to do this,'" one committee member told ESPN. "We talked about that over and over, and we just kept coming back [to] are they good enough with what they have to win a national championship, and it just kept coming back [to] we didn't think they could."
Committee member admitting quite literally that the 1st 12-13 game results were entirely irrelevant and they made a decision based on feelings.


Cool, cool.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 10:32 am to
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the process will inevitably need to select the four best teams from among several with legitimate claims to participate.
Then they failed miserably because Georgia is better than Michiga and Washington by a decent margin, probably at least as big as the margin between injured FSU and Bama.
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