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re: Penn State..Is this the biggest college scandal in history?.....

Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by Lincoln1
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:46 pm to
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I'm astounded about the number of emails and some of the content that has been shown. Why in the world would anyone be so stupid to put such damning evidence in an email?


Hubris. They were treated like that campus was a world unto itself - they were at least somewhat convinced they made their own laws.
Posted by Lincoln1
Member since Dec 2007
1509 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:48 pm to
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Penn state isnt really a sports scandal... its criminal and civil case....


It's both. The football facilities were used to by a football coach to sexually assault children repeatedly, and then the football head coach covered that up. You can't describe the crime without using the word "football" a lot.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37160 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 9:53 pm to
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I'm astounded about the number of emails and some of the content that has been shown. Why in the world would anyone be so stupid to put such damning evidence in an email?

Hubris. They were treated like that campus was a world unto itself - they were at least somewhat convinced they made their own laws.



happy valley was a happy little kingdom with no outside accountability...and joepa was cardinal richeleu to the university president's louis xiii.....
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 10:18 pm to
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Penn State..Is this the biggest college scandal in history?.....


Easily and it should absolutely be an NCAA matter. It has everything to do with football. The President, VP, AD, and HC all knowingly hid and aided an active child molester for 14 years in order to win more football games. The entire motive for hiding the scandal and allowing the abuse to continue was to protect the football program.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48283 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:32 pm to
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baylor killing people and the cover up is greater


Na Bruh. Being a pedophile is worse than murder IMO.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84516 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:34 pm to
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Na Bruh. Being a pedophile is worse than murder IMO.



I honestly don't know how people can find the two scandals comparable. The PSU scandal lasted OVER A DECADE!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48283 posts
Posted on 7/12/12 at 11:36 pm to
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I honestly don't know how people can find the two scandals comparable. The PSU scandal lasted OVER A DECADE!


It's not close. As sad as the Baylor stuff was Atleast it was between two adults.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56455 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 12:02 am to
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The PSU scandal lasted OVER A DECADE!




And God only knows how many boys Sandusky raped during his lifetime. Dozens and dozens, I'd bet. There's never been a high profile monster like this. The dude managed to do this all while in the public eye.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22856 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 3:47 am to
Raping kids, and the knowledge of said rape, where the locker room and extended access to facilities including the PSU football program i.e.: Sandusky bringing and raping a kid at the Orange bowl, provided the imputes and backdrop to these acts. This makes Dickerson's Pontiac look like what it is , a gold Firebird, honestly who cares now its just a car. If Ole Joe was alive he would be going to the slammer.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
82662 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:34 am to
Given that so many were involved, I think this takes the cake. Although, the Baylor murder one is right there too.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18495 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:03 am to
Not only is this the biggest, but also the saddest. PSU will NEVER be the same. This is so much more than football, so much more than boosters gone wild.

This is hurtful for the many people that looked up to JoePa. It is hurtful to every alumnus, player, and supporter of PSU.

The stigma and stench from this will NEVER go away.

My dislike for Alabama on this board is well known. I would send my kid to Alabama long before I would send them to PSU.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:23 am to
Not only education, but sports as well. Nothing comes close.
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 7:24 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:27 am to
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smu death penalty is up there with it

Holy shite, do you honestly think paying off a player to play glorified tag is even close to this. Let me tell you how close they are:

Penn State scandal































































































Smu

I probably should go lower than this, but you get the picture.
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 7:28 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:32 am to
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Well college sports maybe


Name it? The only thing that is probably worse is the Munich Massacre. I'll admit that that was worse than the Penn State cover-up, but it's still a close second.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 7:46 am to
To have a sexual predator at this level of coaching for so many years and the highest level of leadership cover it up for years is beyond my ability to understand how and why this happened for so many years. This tragedy cannot happen! It's impossible! But yet it did happen at the highest level of sports exposure. This is by far the biggest scandal in all of sports. Should never had happened but did.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:13 am to
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Easily and it should absolutely be an NCAA matter. It has everything to do with football. The President, VP, AD, and HC all knowingly hid and aided an active child molester for 14 years in order to win more football games. The entire motive for hiding the scandal and allowing the abuse to continue was to protect the football program.
+1
Posted by SMD
Member since Sep 2010
5538 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:39 am to
So rape is worse than murder? What the frick
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31568 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 9:13 am to
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This is by far the biggest scandal in all of sports.


I agree. Seems like most people do. I heard there are rumors that the chancellors of the other universities want PSU out of the Big10.

If all this is true, why are the talking heads saying Penn State shouldn't get the Death Penalty? If this is not "Lack of Institutional Control", then I dont know what is. Or does that only count when it violates recruiting rules?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157977 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 9:20 am to
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So rape is worse than murder? What the frick


LINK

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A fate worse than death

Meaning

Any misfortune that would make life unlivable, especially rape or loss of virginity. The phrase was formally a euphemism for rape.

Origin

This phrase originally attested to the belief that a dishonoured woman was better off dead. It is still used, but ironically of late. The earlier view was expressed in Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, 1781:

"The matrons and virgins of Rome were exposed to injuries more dreadful, in the apprehension of chastity, than death itself."

The current version of the phrase was used in several works from 1810 onward but was probably brought into public use via Edgar Rice Burroughs' widely read Tarzan of the Apes, 1914:

"[The ape] threw her roughly across his broad, hairy shoulders, and leaped back into the trees, bearing Jane Porter away toward a fate a thousand times worse than death."

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22138 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 9:30 am to
Believing that Sandusky only started his perversions in the 1990's is like saying EWE only stole the one time he got caught. The Second Mile was formed in the mid to late 1970's. He would have been in his mid 40's in the 80's as best I can figure & his sexual perversions had to be well established by that point in his life. If those victims from the 90's are reluctant to come forward after a decade or so, it's easy to see where any older ones would not want to bring up this crap again. There have already been comments made by attys that they have clients who did not want to come forward with any criminal allegations. This is a huge cesspool that well get uglier & uglier over time. So, yes, it should win the award as the biggest ever.
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