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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:52 am to
Posted by Augustus
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:52 am to
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but the death penalty doesn't really "punish" the current players who have nothing to do with it because they are free to transfer anywhere in the nation and play immediately. Maybe not an ideal situation, but it's not like they'd be stuck waiting on Penn State football to come back.
Posted by vl100butch
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:52 am to
the former president is still on the faculty, drawing a paycheck...
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 6:57 am to
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What individuals are still at that PSU that were in on the cover up?


The entire culture of the program still has the "don't give a fck" mindset. Have you read the penn st message boards?

Also, 9 times out of 10, when programs get hit with NCAA violations, the people who broke the rules are years removed from when the actual punishment is taking place.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:00 am to
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What individuals are still at that PSU that were in on the cover up?


All involved players and Tressel were essentially gone when Ohio State's sanctions came down. So should Ohio State have gotten off too?
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:01 am to
I mean frick look at this shite
LINK

Students going out of there way to protect the man who ultimately ran the university yet allowed known pedophilia for over a decade. Probably longer and probably more than 1 rapist.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:01 am to
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The entire culture of the program still has the "don't give a fck" mindset. Have you read the penn st message boards?



So in other words no individuals who were in on the cover up are being punished
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:04 am to
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So in other words no individuals who were in on the cover up are being punished


That's fricking life. Deal with it.
Posted by ohieaux
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:06 am to
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All involved players and Tressel were essentially gone when Ohio State's sanctions came down. So should Ohio State have gotten off too?


The AD and President were still there and they shared a good bit of the responsibility.
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:21 am to
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By punishing "the program", "the institution" or "Penn State" you are punishing nobody who is guilty and only the innocent. Its cowardly, lazy and beyond idiotic.


For the dumb shits that think like this, it's going to take about 5 years and a South Park episode for them to realize the severity of what actually happened at that University.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:22 am to
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All involved players and Tressel were essentially gone when Ohio State's sanctions came down. So should Ohio State have gotten off too?


All NCAA sanctions that directly punish the entire team are pointless but missing 1 bowl game and getting the death penalty aren't even remotely close.
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:24 am to
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All NCAA sanctions that directly punish the entire team are pointless


They certainly do have a point. And that is to scare other programs into behaving. If the penalties never punished the entire team, and just individuals, there would be a lot less accountability. Meh, so what if we are cheating/whatever? We can get rid of the offending parties and everything will be fine.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 7:25 am
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:27 am to
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All NCAA sanctions that directly punish the entire team are pointless


Well this is all I needed to know about your posts.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:27 am to
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If the penalties never punished the entire team, and just individuals, there would be a lot less accountability. .


How so?
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:29 am to
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The AD and President were still there and they shared a good bit of the responsibility.


He directly stated "individuals that were involved with the cover up." The OSU president and AD never were, according to any evidence analyzed at least.

Anyways, I wasn't trying to make this debate involve the OSU scandal, but point out the flaws in Verlander's logic.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:29 am to
Did you not read the rest of his post? Geezus dude get a grip with reality.
Posted by LOCO5150
NWA
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:30 am to
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but missing 1 bowl game and getting the death penalty aren't even remotely close


I do agree with this, but then you must also agree that trading a bowl game ring for a tattoo and hundreds of kids being anally raped on your campus and it being covered up by your University for 14 + years while continuing to allow it to happen are both totally different too.

Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19353 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:39 am to
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I do agree with this, but then you must also agree that trading a bowl game ring for a tattoo and hundreds of kids being anally raped on your campus and it being covered up by your University for 14 + years while continuing to allow it to happen are both totally different too.


and neither one should be punished with a bowl ban
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31139 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:40 am to
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How so?

Because if offending institutions aren't held accountable they could cheat at will and just fire everyone involved if they ever get caught. "Well NCAA investigators, everyone involved is gone, you can't give us any penalties".
Posted by Wrestler171
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:42 am to
Any live feed for computers?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:42 am to
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Because if offending institutions aren't held accountable they could cheat at will and just fire everyone involved if they ever get caught. "Well NCAA investigators, everyone involved is gone, you can't give us any penalties".


Who is "they"
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