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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by Gmorgan4982
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:09 pm to
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So shutting down the program will stop child rape nation wide.
It's the solution we have been looking for for generations!
Posted by TemplarTheSaint
The Vatican
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:10 pm to
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That doesn't answer the question I posed. This is a criminal case that is currently in the process of dealing with all of those involved. All the NCAA is doing here is pouring salt into the wound. It will do nothing to deter this from ever happening again. All it is doing is making everyone in the media and the general public feel better because everyone is pissed and wants the NCAA to do something.


Think of it in this fashion -

When all of ENRON broke, the CPA and Consulting firms were disbanded by THEIR governing boards, even though they were not the individuals directly involved. Same here. The AD and Univ. Administrators are being held accountable by the NCAA (governing body) even though they were not the one's in the shower.

That is why there exists "HIGHER STANDARD" language within the NCAA Bylaws. Trust me on this one, that language will be greatly expanded soon..

This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:11 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:10 pm to
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Guys the psu program should be put to sleep and not play football for awhile because no kid should ever have to worry about getting abused by some old man . Number 2 the people who did not tell on sandusky should really just go to hell no reasons what so ever that man should have not been cought 10 or so years ago. Psu needs to put out for this.


No child should ever have to worry about being raped at a university, in the football facilities, in a shower!
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:11 pm to
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cought
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:12 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62650 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:14 pm to
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So shutting down the program is the only way to prevent child rape or other evil things from happening again at Penn State
FIFY
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:14 pm to
I have cried thinking about this a couple of times. These are children. Children that were robbed of the one thing that makes them so beautiful, their innocence. Children that probably dreamed of playing for PSU one day. They probably thought that being on that campus and seeing where only the players and coaches only had access to, was the coolest thing in the world. He took advantage of a child's innocence and they did nothing about it. Why is that so hard to see?
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:15 pm to
Ah ha someone got touched as a kid
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:16 pm to
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All the NCAA is doing right now is pouring salt into a wound that is in the process of healing, all in the name of a lynch mob.


Do you have some sort of inside info on what exactly the NCAA and its investigators are up to?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:18 pm to
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Anarchy has rules. Anarchy calls for no governments or leaders, unless it's voluntary. Set up a mini NFL where the players are paid with money not scholarships that allow tax exemption via legal terminology


ok, no one is stopping you from organizing a mini NFL. in fact, there have been others in the past. now, if your talking about this league having teams representing universitys then don't you think the universitys should have some regulatory authority? or should this league be able to confiscate the college stadiums and do what the hell they want to whenever they want to? maybe on a voluntary basis. no need for tax exemptions and legal terminology and all that "vile stuff". we could call this "OCCUPY STATE U ".
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:20 pm to
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Ah ha someone got touched as a kid

No, not exactly. When i was 7 i was in a very bad accident that left 30% of my body in 3rd degree burns. My right arm, chest and back. I remember feeling so alone and extremely scared and constantly asking the question why? I had great people to help me through my physical and mental rehabilitation and it really is why I am not a complete psycho. I have moved on in life and i feel i am a positive contributor to our society. I just think though, what if some one had taken advantage of my vulnerability back then? I scares the frick out of me.
Posted by PowerTool
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Member since Dec 2009
23258 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:20 pm to
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Ah ha someone got touched as a kid



OK dude, I've read a couple of your attempts at "humor" on this thread and I have to ask, are you 12 years old? Go back to the OT.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:21 pm to
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So shutting down the program is the only way to prevent child rape or other evil things from happening again at Penn State


How will it stop it? This was an outlier situation. The only way to truly stop it from happening there is to totally dissolve Penn state university. Even then you're only guaranteeing no more rape at Penn state university...nothing more. That's a little ridiculous.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:21 pm to
Why don't you go back go the ot
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:22 pm to
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Ah ha someone got touched as a kid


man, your response is cruel and cold. the poster has empathy for the children and you cut him down. as a father and grandfather i am 100% in agreement with him. destroying innocent children is about as low as humanity can stoop.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
Sorry to hear that Mon.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62650 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:23 pm to
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How will it stop it?
Most places are extremely intolerant of child rapists. However, Penn State Football is a haven for a child rapist. Take away Penn State Football, you take away a pedophile's safe haven.
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:26 pm to
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Take away Penn State Football, you take away a pedophile's safe haven.
The rapist and the ones who covered it up are gone. Unless you have names of others who covered it up.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62650 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:29 pm to
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The rapist and the ones who covered it up are gone. Unless you have names of others who covered it up.
Two names I have now are Janitor A and Janitor B. And Freeh makes it clear this is a cultural problem that included many people, not just Sandusky and the 4 guys at the top.

How many times do I have to explain this to you?
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:31 pm to
You haven't explained anything to me. You can't name anyone still involved with the program who covered up the crime yet you want the people within the program punished. You can't name any names so you just say "culture."
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31143 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 12:31 pm to
I haven't read the entire thread nor the Freeh report, but the NCAA Bylaws mention the principles of Institutional Control and Responsibility, and terms like "high standards of personal honor". Depending on the actions of athletic department officials mentioned in the Freeh report, it isn't much of a stretch to say this can be an NCAA issue.
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