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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:10 am to
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They have had a recruiting advantage since 98 or 01


LOL WUT?

What recruiting advantage did they have?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:11 am to
I have a feeling the sanctions won't be as bad as everyone is hoping. I think that initial report using the word "unprecedented" got everyone all riled up but I think in the end they will vacate games, titles, records and lose a few schollies for several years. Nothing remotely close to the death penalty JMHO
Posted by fastedLSU
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:11 am to
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Kicking them out and telling the to reapply for membership in so many years is not out of the question at all and in fact looks like a very appropriate punishment.


EVERY athlete at PSU should lose D1/NCAA status? The only way that it would be remotely appropriate is if EVERY athlete is allowed to transfer w/o penalty. If that's allowed, they will transfer, and PSU = SMU
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13261 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:11 am to
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Honestly, USC got off easy. Deal with it.
We're dealing with it. By winning, and right in the teeth of NCAA sanctions.

How do you like them apples?
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:11 am to
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I have a feeling the sanctions won't be as bad as everyone is hoping. I think that initial report using the word "unprecedented" got everyone all riled up but I think in the end they will vacate games, titles, records and lose a few schollies for several years. Nothing remotely close to the death penalty JMHO


this is correct
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:12 am to
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Did these child molesters give Penn State a competitive advantage? If not, then what the frick is the NCAA doing sanctioning Penn State?
Please link the NCAA bylaw that states programs can only be punished for actions that clearly give them a competitive advantage. Thanks.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:12 am to
Yep. There will be a lot of sandy vaginas on this board tomorrow.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:12 am to
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We're dealing with it. By winning, and right in the teeth of NCAA sanctions.


what exactly is USC winning?
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28426 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:13 am to
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the high level school admins who let this go on



Haven't they all been fired at this point (or died) and aren't they all facing jail time themselves?

Is that not enough? Keep in mind that these guys, while certainly at fault, are not the ones who started this. Jerry Sandusky is the one who created this mess with his criminal activity.
Posted by carwashguy
Houston
Member since Jul 2005
246 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:13 am to
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Did these child molesters give Penn State a competitive advantage? If not, then what the frick is the NCAA doing sanctioning Penn State?

I am all for hammering child molesters. I don't believe that is NCAA's responsibility though. Leave it to the law.


Covering this up what was going on behind closed doors at Penn St is the advantage they got. Had they came out with all of this when they found out about it, the program would have taken a big hit and recruits would be going elsewhere. All the years that this was covered up was a recruiting advantage
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62649 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:13 am to
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Nothing remotely close to the death penalty
quote:

The penalties, however, are considered to be so harsh that the death penalty may have been preferable, the source said.

This is linked in the OP
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 10:15 am
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:14 am to
Most of the games the were allowed to play in.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:14 am to
The OP clearly states that Penn State would want to prefer the death penalty to what this punishment will be. That implies that it's pretty big.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:14 am to
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You just want some more people punished?

Bloodlust! Woohoo!


I don't know the names of specific people geez. But it seems pretty true that many members of the athletic department had a general idea of what was going on and did nothing about it. The entire AD needs to be punished.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:14 am to
Is Penn State and its "culture" not funded by the taxpayers of Pennsylvania? If it makes sense to punish the current members of the athletic department, wouldn't it also make sense to somehow punish the taxpayers of the state? Or would that be insane?
This post was edited on 7/22/12 at 10:17 am
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13261 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:15 am to
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Had they came out with all of this when they found out about it, the program would have taken a big hit and recruits would be going elsewhere. All the years that this was covered up was a recruiting advantage
That's a big reach, IMHO.

Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60249 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:15 am to
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Yep. There will be a lot of sandy vaginas on this board tomorrow.



Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:15 am to
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Covering this up what was going on behind closed doors at Penn St is the advantage they got. Had they came out with all of this when they found out about it, the program would have taken a big hit and recruits would be going elsewhere. All the years that this was covered up was a recruiting advantage


I don't think that you know what the word "advantage" means.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:16 am to
So people knew about it and this has been proven and they are still in the athletic department? Or are you just making that up?
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52619 posts
Posted on 7/22/12 at 10:16 am to
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The OP clearly states that Penn State would want to prefer the death penalty to what this punishment will be. That implies that it's pretty big.


i'll believe it when i see it. if this is true the ncaa is out of control.
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