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Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:17 pm to bisonduck
You should find the ripping and the tearing gif.
And apparently he's deciding on Monday.
And apparently he's deciding on Monday.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 11:53 am to Sellecks Moustache
Boom...he's a duck.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:14 pm to bisonduck
And just like that, Oregon is a contender.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:19 pm to bisonduck
It sucks he can't enroll until summer, but it is still a good get for Oregon. It'll be fun to see him go against his told team week 1, then Michigan State week 2.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:22 pm to bisonduck
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Boom...he's a duck.
You need to upgrade your offensive and defensive line before you become a true title contender. And maybe you're linebackers while you're at it.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:29 pm to KosmoCramer
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You need to upgrade your offensive and defensive line before you become a true title contender. And maybe you're linebackers while you're at it.
Offensive line was fine. We were getting four/five yards a carry up the middle. We were getting zilch running to the edge, receivers weren't physical enough to hold blocks. We had no receivers to stretch the defense vertically.
Defensive line was fine, but we run a 3-4 with shitty linebackers. We had NFL talent at both DE positions in that game, including a first rounder in Arik Armstead. Consistently rushing 3 on 3rd and long situations and having shitty linebackers was the issue.
edit - we have decent D-Line talent. Might be time to move to a 4-3.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:35 pm to QuackAttack716
You got abused up front. If you don't think your defensive linemen were a major issue I don't know what to tell you.
In a 3-4, DLmen aren't necessarily supposed to make the tackles but they need to stand their ground and gobble up offensive linemen. Ohio State's OL was able to consistently get to the second level at will against an undersized DT (who got run over by our quarterback) and was able to exploit tall, fast but undersized DEs. To act like Armstead, et al weren't an issue is disingenuous.
In a 3-4, DLmen aren't necessarily supposed to make the tackles but they need to stand their ground and gobble up offensive linemen. Ohio State's OL was able to consistently get to the second level at will against an undersized DT (who got run over by our quarterback) and was able to exploit tall, fast but undersized DEs. To act like Armstead, et al weren't an issue is disingenuous.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:38 pm to SwaggerCopter
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And just like that, Oregon is a contender.
Yep, Oregon has proved that offense wins championships. They better make room in their trophy case.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:46 pm to KosmoCramer
That DT was 310 lbs, I still he can't believe how pathetic he looked. But how much bigger can you get at DT?
Armstead is a 290 lb first round NFL talent. How is that undersized? How do you get better talent than a first round projection? If he's good enough to start on an NFL team (which first rounders are supposed to be) doesn't that mean he's one of the best in college football?
edit - I have a feeling it comes down to poor technique/coaching. I don't see how you can hope for a better DE than a 6'8" 290lb first round projection.
Armstead is a 290 lb first round NFL talent. How is that undersized? How do you get better talent than a first round projection? If he's good enough to start on an NFL team (which first rounders are supposed to be) doesn't that mean he's one of the best in college football?
edit - I have a feeling it comes down to poor technique/coaching. I don't see how you can hope for a better DE than a 6'8" 290lb first round projection.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:53 pm to QuackAttack716
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That DT was 310 lbs, I still he can't believe how pathetic he looked. But how much bigger can you get at DT?
Weight isn't what I was talking about. Strength and leverage is the key obviously for a DT in a 3-4. He can't get blown off the ball and get chipped by a guard who can then explode off into a linebacker. He has to hold at least one blocker at the point of attack. This has been known for a while. Obviously in the Pac-10, you need to run a defense with a bunch of DBs and LBs that can cover as well. It has done them no favors at the highest levels when they've made it that far when it counts.
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Armstead is a 290 lb first round NFL talent.
He is a prototypical NFL OLB/DE or rush end. He wasn't capable of stopping the run and didn't get hardly any pressure so obviously that didn't transfer well to the college game.
He was a non-factor.
I know Oregon fans didn't want to hear how they were soft and couldn't play smash-mouth football after they beat a very poor FSU team but it's still the truth and has been for a while now. They need to re-evaluate just like Ohio State did when it came to SEC teams. You can't recruit the guys that help you win the Pac-12 or B1G and expect to beat the best of the best.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:55 pm to QuackAttack716
Oregon is just a soft team in general, it comes from their style of play... Don't get me wrong, they are fast, well coached, disciplined and they are good at what they want to do. They like to get on the edges and use their speed.
However, that comes with a price. When Oregon plays bigger, more physical teams (Auburn, LSU and Ohio State) they get blown off the ball and seem to be unable to answer.
Auburn, for example, may be a spread team, but they are a "spread-power" team. They can get on the edges, but their true identity lies within powering the ball up the middle. This eventually opens ups the edges for speed sweeps and so forth.
However, that comes with a price. When Oregon plays bigger, more physical teams (Auburn, LSU and Ohio State) they get blown off the ball and seem to be unable to answer.
Auburn, for example, may be a spread team, but they are a "spread-power" team. They can get on the edges, but their true identity lies within powering the ball up the middle. This eventually opens ups the edges for speed sweeps and so forth.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 12:57 pm to sms151t
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Last year Garoppolo won it
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:37 pm to TheWalrus
It's official. Vernon Adams heading to Oregon.
ETA: sorry, didn't see it was being talked about it above me. Just sort of jumped in without looking.
ETA: sorry, didn't see it was being talked about it above me. Just sort of jumped in without looking.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 2/9/15 at 1:51 pm to RogerTempleton
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Vernon Adams Jr is a perfect fit for the Oregon offense.
Holy crap, he sure is. This would be awesome to watch.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:11 pm to mm2316
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It sucks he can't enroll until summer, but it is still a good get for Oregon. It'll be fun to see him go against his told team week 1, then Michigan State week 2.
Rumor is that he will start in spring...we are on the quarter system out here in the west.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:13 pm to bisonduck
Is Braxton going to transfer?
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:14 pm to TTsTowel
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Oregon is just a soft team in general, it comes from their style of play... Don't get me wrong, they are fast, well coached, disciplined and they are good at what they want to do. They like to get on the edges and use their speed. However, that comes with a price. When Oregon plays bigger, more physical teams (Auburn, LSU and Ohio State) they get blown off the ball and seem to be unable to answer. Auburn, for example, may be a spread team, but they are a "spread-power" team. They can get on the edges, but their true identity lies within powering the ball up the middle. This eventually opens ups the edges for speed sweeps and so forth.
We are going to give more 4-3 looks on defense...and our current class included Okun 340 pounds, Lemieux 315, Throckmorton and Hanson at 285 on the oline. The DL got Kaumatule 295, Carlberg 281, Manu 298, and Baker 290.
Frost wants a power spread.
Posted on 2/9/15 at 3:20 pm to KosmoCramer
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He is a prototypical NFL OLB/DE or rush end.
WTF Armstead will be 3-4 DE or 4-3 DT. Heck he was recruited as a Offensive tackle out of HSPosted on 2/9/15 at 3:21 pm to KosmoCramer
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I know Oregon fans didn't want to hear how they were soft and couldn't play smash-mouth football after they beat a very poor FSU team but it's still the truth and has been for a while now. They need to re-evaluate just like Ohio State did when it came to SEC teams. You can't recruit the guys that help you win the Pac-12 or B1G and expect to beat the best of the best.
They reevaluated and there are changes coming. We are going to multiple fronts now. You just can't be in a 3-4 base all the time because you simply can't rely on 3 DL commanding two blockers no matter how well you recruit. There is no margin. Even Bama flexes their fronts.
Likewise, a power run spread has been in the works for some time. It's just a matter of the recruits maturing. Oregon will have an oline in 2016 that will push teams around.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 3:22 pm
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