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re: Paterno statue not coming down??
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:30 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Posted on 7/15/12 at 11:30 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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are these the same trustees that had no issue fire him immediately?
That was my first reaction when I saw that quote.
When the scandal first hit the national news, they threw him under the bus instead of waiting for the facts. Now that a full investigation has been done, and he looks far worse than he did last fall, they want to wait and see if they should remove the statue??
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Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:06 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
We know its a slow process in HV delusional frick
Posted on 7/15/12 at 2:19 pm to UKWildcatsFAN
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Joe Pa gave most of his life to State College and he and his family deserve respect. Let him rest in peace.
Joe Paterno, even in death, has to live with the consequences of his actions or, in this case, omissions.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 3:30 pm to Bestbank Tiger
The BOT member who said he hopes it stays up till everyone forgets bout it is exactly what will happen in my opinion. The media will stay on this till the criminal trials are over with, as they will be open to the public. But the civil suits'settlements will be sealed at both party's request & the media will lose interest fast once the news drys up. And once the media goes away, life in Happy Valley will go on as before. If their fans want to see the statue & feel proud, that is their prerogative. To everyone else in sports, it will be a statue of shame & disgust, which is what Bobby Bowden is saying.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 3:32 pm to Keltic Tiger
when the statue starts to affect recruiting is when it will come down...
another scenario is when the level of national disgust finally gets through some heads there...
another scenario is when the level of national disgust finally gets through some heads there...
Posted on 7/15/12 at 3:35 pm to vl100butch
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when the statue starts to affect recruiting is when it will come down...
The school knows that it needs to come down. They are trying to consider how to do it that limits the chaos that happened when idiots protested his firing.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 3:49 pm to vl100butch
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when the statue starts to affect recruiting is when it will come down...
Related, but Tom, is Penn State expecting drastically reduced numbers of incoming freshmen this year?
This post was edited on 7/15/12 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:07 pm to TiGeRTeRRoR
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is Penn State expecting drastically reduced numbers of incoming freshmen this year?
I have no idea but those numbers are reported yearly I think so they will be available at some point. Academically PSU us highly ranked, especially within the state school rankings. It's why I keep trying to separate the two. The administration screwed up bad as well, but they are all gone too. The new administration needs to start distancing itself from Paterno. The statue is a start.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:26 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
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The school knows that it needs to come down. They are trying to consider how to do it that limits the chaos that happened when idiots protested his firing.
It should be easier now than it was then. When JoePa was fired, there was still plausible deniability. Now JoePa looks more complicit than even his doubters suspected.
This raises another question: How much did the BOT know last November? Based on public information, you could have argued that JoePa went to the guy who oversees campus police, passed on some hearsay, and figured everything was OK when he didn't hear anything. Not that he did everything he could have and should have, but enough that they should have waited until all the facts came out.
Unless, of course, they knew what facts were going to come out...
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:26 pm to tigerblood29
By keeping it up will make it drag out and hurt them loñgterm. Goes to show u how much in bed/brainwashed they were by Jopa. Theyre still denying, being standoffish.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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This raises another question: How much did the BOT know last November?
I have no idea but they were the one that requested Judge Freeh to investigate this for an unbiased, comprehensive report. Then they received the report and made it publicly available. That says to me that they are serious about this and that the new administration is trying to ensure this never happens again.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:39 pm to lsufan112001
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Goes to show u how much in bed/brainwashed they were by Jopa. Theyre still denying, being standoffish.
Dunno if it was brainwashed. I just think they desperately want Joepa to be innocent. They can deal with Sandusky being a pedo, but Joepa is the most recognizable symbol of the university and the only successful coach they've ever had in a major sport. And the public facade was traditionally a source of pride. Penn State wasn't an Oklahoma or Miami. They won the right way. NO showboating. Run-ins with the law were taken seriously. It's hard for them to accept the idea that the rogue programs were more honorable.
Posted on 7/15/12 at 4:45 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Dunno if it was brainwashed. I just think they desperately want Joepa to be innocent. They can deal with Sandusky being a pedo, but Joepa is the most recognizable symbol of the university and the only successful coach they've ever had in a major sport. And the public facade was traditionally a source of pride. Penn State wasn't an Oklahoma or Miami. They won the right way. NO showboating. Run-ins with the law were taken seriously. It's hard for them to accept the idea that the rogue programs were more honorable.
This isn't a bad way of putting it. The fans people are calling delusional still can't wrap their minds around it. It's not an uncommon phenomena in any way.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 5:15 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
Just a quick snippet from an email I received at my alumni email from the university president:
"As we move forward, there are many decisions that must be made —decisions that are not without consequences and must not be done without careful thought. Many of these decisions involve individuals and practices deeply woven into the fabric of our community.
All of this will take time."
This to me means that the statue, along with many other references to JoePa will start to come down. They will move slowly to try and avoid the chaos that came after his firing. Take it fwiw.
"As we move forward, there are many decisions that must be made —decisions that are not without consequences and must not be done without careful thought. Many of these decisions involve individuals and practices deeply woven into the fabric of our community.
All of this will take time."
This to me means that the statue, along with many other references to JoePa will start to come down. They will move slowly to try and avoid the chaos that came after his firing. Take it fwiw.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 5:18 pm to Mr. Tom Morrow
i think more stuff is going to come out about how joepa was the authority on campus and other than making his players go to class, he ran all over the administration....
Posted on 7/16/12 at 5:21 pm to vl100butch
Yeah that section of the email really made me think there is possibly more information coming out soon and the university is beginning to prepare. JoePa will slowly and methodically be removed from PSU.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 7:59 pm to vl100butch
Someone go up there in a F350, back up, and drag the Fing thing down the street.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 8:03 pm to lsufan112001
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Someone go up there in a F350, back up, and drag the Fing thing down the street.
While there were many PSU fans calling for the statue to remain, I saw a few threaten just this. The divide I'm seeing right keeps increasing with each news report. It's sad and pretty defeating.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 8:04 pm to Chaplain
Is the statue going to have security. If not I would think the obvious issue would be the statue being vandalized.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 8:08 pm to beaverfever
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Is the statue going to have security. If not I would think the obvious issue would be the statue being vandalized.
This was another discussed today on a different forum I was reading. If not, opposing fans will destroy it. Read the snippet from my email. To me it indicates it's being discussed. I think it's going to happen soon before students return for the fall. Just my opinion.
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