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re: Ozzie Guillen suspended 5 games for Fidel Castro comments
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:41 am to kjntgr
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:41 am to kjntgr
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Its strange how in this country a person is punished for his opinion.
Its a private entity who doesn't agree with the comments of one of its employees who is a HUGE public figure for them. Also the comments offend a very large % of your fan base. 5 games is nothing considering that sort of thing could get you fired at some companies.
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Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:41 am to kjntgr
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Its strange how in this country a person is punished for his opinion. As crazy and arse backward as it may be.
If he was suspended by the owners the suspension makes total sense. It is a business decision. Would your boss take kindly to you publicly offending a large portion of your customers?
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:41 am to Chad504boy
quote:
, someone should be allowed to make stupid comments in this country.
they can, and then the employer of that person can punish them how they see fit. Just because you live in a free country doesn't mean what you say doesn't have consequences.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:42 am to heartbreakTiger
People already outside Marlin Park protesting. Will this really hurt attendance?
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:43 am to Chad504boy
quote:
What happened to 'Merica, land of the free speech?
You do have free speech. Doesn't mean the rest of the pansies will agree with you, and you have to be willing to take what comes with making stupid,insensitive remarks.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:43 am to barry
i still refuse to believe that ozzie was ignorant enough to not know the weight of his words
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:44 am to barry
quote:Spot-on. This monster has been committing atrocities & torturing the people of Cuba for over 50 years. He is viewed by so many Cubans as basically the equivalent of Hitler & to say a single good word about him is treated as a slap in the face of every single person whom died at his regime's hand or in the Atlantic just trying to escape their horror.
I knew some people whose parents grew up in Cuba. You have no idea how shitty of a person he is.
eta: No shitty, evil is a much better description.
Yes, it is a big deal.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:45 am to LSURoss
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People already outside Marlin Park protesting. Will this really hurt attendance?
My guess those people have nothing better to do and are out there to show people "Hey! look at me! I feel sorry for you! I have a heart!"
Pussies
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:45 am to Prominentwon
I thought his comments were pretty clearly a joke.
He's pretty upset about it, judging by his press conference.
He's pretty upset about it, judging by his press conference.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:46 am to barry
He apologizes to everyone in the Latin World and then says..."and if I have left anyone out, I'm sorry." 
Unintentional comedy to mock the comedy of PC.
And then later...again
"I'm here on my knees, apologizing to everyone in the Latin community."
It seriously feels like he's mocking the overreaction or our PC world.
Unintentional comedy to mock the comedy of PC.
And then later...again
"I'm here on my knees, apologizing to everyone in the Latin community."
It seriously feels like he's mocking the overreaction or our PC world.
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 9:47 am
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:48 am to LSURoss
quote:
People already outside Marlin Park protesting. Will this really hurt attendance?
for most of them, its the first time they came that close to the Park.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:52 am to Prominentwon
Like I posted in another thread on this topic:
They're doing damage control big time, but again maybe a little checking before they hired him (it's not like Ozzie is shy when it comes to speaking his mind) would have saved a lot of grief later.
quote:
And the Miami ownership didn't know what Ozzie was when they signed him?
He's originally from Venezuela. He's on record as being a fan of Hugo Chavez. Chavez and Castro are BFF's. Connect the dots.
They're doing damage control big time, but again maybe a little checking before they hired him (it's not like Ozzie is shy when it comes to speaking his mind) would have saved a lot of grief later.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:53 am to Prominentwon
If the miami marlins coach professed love for a dude responsible for murdering your family member(s), you would be pissed.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:55 am to Zamoro10
quote:
He apologizes to everyone in the Latin World and then says..."and if I have left anyone out, I'm sorry."
Unintentional comedy to mock the comedy of PC.
And then later...again
"I'm here on my knees, apologizing to everyone in the Latin community."
It seriously feels like he's mocking the overreaction or our PC world.
+1.. you should have saved this for 6000 (5999 as far as I can tell)
If it's management, they're still overreacting but well within their rights.. if it's the MLB frick that.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:56 am to Chad504boy
quote:
What happened to 'Merica, land of the free speech?
MLB is a private entity, and Guillen pissed off a large part of it's fan base.
Freedom of speech applies to government institutions; Guillen's not going to be jailed for his comments.
This is a business move by MLB. Pure and simple.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:57 am to Prominentwon
Yes they warrant suspension from the Marlins
Many people in their fanbase literally risked their lives to get away from Castro's regime
Now your new manager says he likes the guy? If you want to have any chance of keeping people coming to games you need to show that you're not ok w Ozzie's comments and I think five games is appropriate...not too long, not too short
Many people in their fanbase literally risked their lives to get away from Castro's regime
Now your new manager says he likes the guy? If you want to have any chance of keeping people coming to games you need to show that you're not ok w Ozzie's comments and I think five games is appropriate...not too long, not too short
Posted on 4/10/12 at 9:59 am to Jumbeauxlaya
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If it's management, they're still overreacting but well within their rights..
If Ozzie says what he said while working for any private business in Miami, he's terminated on the spot and has to fight for unemployment compensation. He's lucky to get only a suspension.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:03 am to kjntgr
quote:
Its strange how in this country a person is punished for his opinion.
It's strange how the Miami Marlins are a private entity and can do that.
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:05 am to Quidam65
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If Ozzie says what he said while working for any private business in Miami, he's terminated on the spot and has to fight for unemployment compensation. He's lucky to get only a suspension.
I agree. And this is not over yet. If this doesn't blow over soon and quickly, his job still might be at risk. Cuban-Americans do not play around when it comes to pro-castro sentiment.
ETA: the new ballpark is located in Little Havana.
This post was edited on 4/10/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 4/10/12 at 10:07 am to tigerpimpbot
Yeah like Cowherd just said, if this doesn't go over well w the community he could still lose his job
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