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re: Ohio State is only getting consideration because of their name

Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:23 am to
Posted by gobuxgo5
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:23 am to
So you hate SOS arguments? Lol
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:25 am to
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I still remember in 2014 Ohio State fans lecturing TCU/Baylor fans over the 13th data point, how its the most important thing, and how you dont belong if you didnt play in a conference title game.



people twist this there teams favor no matter what.

Lucky for LSU fans, we have been consistent on the conference champ side of the argument (03, 07, 11)
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:29 am to
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Teams can only play who's on their schedule. How do we know Washington Colorado ..etc wouldn't have beaten those same teams?


You know what teams do have control over? Their non-conference schedule. Washington had a non-conference schedule of Rutgers, Idaho and Portland State. If Oklahoma had been as cowardly with their non-conference schedule, they would be one of the playoff teams right now. Washington has only itself to blame for their weak resume.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10120 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:29 am to
Funny the BCS computer rankings keep agreeing with the buckeye fans and their twisting arguments -- take off your blinders computers?
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7153 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:30 am to
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So you hate SOS arguments? Lol


When its presented as if other teams couldn't do the same, then yes. Funny how folks count the Oklahoma win as some accomplishment, then turn around and call the Big 12 overrated and weak.

Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10120 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:32 am to
Washington AD:
Hey guys do you want to schedule Michigan this year?

AD assistant
"Nah.. someone similar though. How about Portland?"

"Portland seems risky"

"Hmm.. Portland st?"

"Yes, I'll call the AD right now"

Tigerdroppings
"UW with 1 loss is more impressive than Oklahomas 2 losses they beat Portland St instead of playing OSU"
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35359 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:33 am to
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Funny how folks count the Oklahoma win as some accomplishment, then turn around and call the Big 12 overrated and weak.
Well it was a quality win regardless of the Big 12s overall quality.

And just because the SEC if down compared to recent years, doesn't mean Alabama is any less of a team.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38924 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:39 am to
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Funny the BCS computer rankings keep agreeing with the buckeye fans and their twisting arguments -- take off your blinders computers?



Nah, I think and always thought tOSU was the best pick but I still think TCU had a pretty solid argument for being in the playoffs.


My point was that comment it that you cannot look for logical consistency with fans arguments into the playoff or BCS title rules. Everyone's arguments will typically be what helps their team the most.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11965 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:47 am to
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Well it was a quality win regardless of the Big 12s overall quality.

And just because the SEC if down compared to recent years, doesn't mean Alabama is any less of a team.


Nama is 12-0, won its division and likely will win its conference. Your point has no validity.

Fact is that if you have 4 P5 conference champions that have the same number of wins as another P5 team that doesn't have even a division title, then the conference champs should go. Clemson and Washington are getting shafted for playing an extra game.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35359 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:51 am to
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Nama is 12-0, won its division and likely will win its conference. Your point has no validity.
My point is solely in relation to the quality of Oklahoma and the quality of their conference.

In other words a quality team is a quality team, regardless if the team's conference is down.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 9:54 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 9:59 am to
Just like in all sports, historical success does count, it's why Notre Dame still gets on TV every week.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10120 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:01 am to
What does 1968 OSU have to do with beating the current 5,6 and 7th ranked teams?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:08 am to
The low IQ of golden nugget continues to shine bright like a diamond
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59610 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:09 am to
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Then by this logic we were the better team against PSU since we had: 140 more yards, 1 fewer turnovers, 15 minutes longer time of possession, 6 more first downs, better third and fourth down conversion rate, and more rushing and passing yards.



That's the point.

It's a double bind for Ohio State. They lost to Penn State...and were outplayed by Michigan.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:18 am to
A lot of people are having trouble facing that there is no good argument against OSU. Their worst case scenario is the nation's fourth best record and an SOS that is currently #1 and can't possibly drop too far.

When your record and SOS are both in the top 4, you get to enjoy a playoff berth.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45829 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:22 am to
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They lost to Penn State...and were outplayed by Michigan.


Had the edge in total yards, won the turn over battle plus they missed two FGs. But you're right, outplayed
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:22 am to
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How do we know Washington Colorado ..etc wouldn't have beaten those same teams?

Well, we do know that Colorado lost to Michigan, so there's one you can strike off your list.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130589 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:23 am to
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What does 1968 OSU have to do with beating the current 5,6 and 7th ranked teams?


Pretty extreme, but what I might expect from a northerner. I didn't say Ohio state shouldn't be in, just responding to the OP.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15524 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:23 am to
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My point was that comment it that you cannot look for logical consistency with fans arguments into the playoff or BCS title rules.


Sure, but I don't think there were too many OSU fans arguing that the end all be all was the conference championship game. It was the fact that we had 1 more win, which happened to be an absolute blow out over a top 15 rated Wisconsin. Not to mentioned the overall SOS of either teams.

Conference championships can be important, but like anything else it is a factor that needs to be looked at individually, not as the end all be all.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11965 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:27 am to
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My point is solely in relation to the quality of Oklahoma and the quality of their conference. In other words a quality team is a quality team, regardless if the team's conference is down.


Why are they a quality team? If the entire conference is shite and they got blasted by their only legitimate OOC opponents, that doesn't make them good.

Fact is that OSUs big wins are nothing to gloat about seeing as other than Michigan beating Colorado, their other marquee wins came from teams propped up by illusions. Wisconsins great ooc win against LSU was nothing valuable. LSU is a four loss team that couldn't bests depleted UF team at home and has a best win against a 4-loss A&M.

CFB is down as a whole but outside of the big 4 in the big ten, the conference is an utter joke which proppedt those 4 teams up.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 10:30 am
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