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re: Ohio State gets bowl ban, other penalties

Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:41 pm to
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one of the best coaches in the nation
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LOL WUT


You dont agree with this?
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:41 pm to
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Thing that really sucks in all of this is that the players and coach involved are out the door when we have to pay the price. Really sucks for next year's seniors who did nothing wrong. It's a major flaw in the NCAA penal system.


Isn't that ALWAYS the case? And at least they were on the frickin' team!

Try punishing players who were in middle school/high school when the infractions incurred? USC? Now that's wrong.
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Trojan Ace
Reality
Member since Nov 2005
4004 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:41 pm to
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Yes, the situation is much more blatant and severe in the Buckeye's case. Really? We actually cooperated with the NCAA. We self-imposed sanctions. We essentially fired one of the best coaches in the nation that was the biggest root of the problem. All players involved got significant suspensions. We didn't fight tooth and nail with the NCAA over paying for a star player's family's crib in San Diego and claim innocence.


If you think a two-time convicted felon-- who was not an agent btw-- paying for a house over two hours away from the USC campus (or equidistant from Columbus to Lexington, KY) for ONE player is the same as multiple parties committing infractions under the knowledge of the coaching staff, there's no reason to even discuss this.

Or as the scumbag Paul Dees, whose Miami Hurricanes possibly committed what could be the worst infractions in the history of the ncaa (including the largest Pell Grant fraud scheme in US academic history), when he ruled on the USC case, "USC should have known". Well guess what? OSU did know and tried to cover it up.

Look, I'm glad you all escaped the ludicrous power the ncaa wields. I am pointing out how utterly ridiculous the sanctions levied against the Trojans are in the grand scheme of things.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:44 pm to
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If you think a two-time convicted felon-- who was not an agent btw-- paying for a house over two hours away from the USC campus (or equidistant from Columbus to Lexington, KY) for ONE player is the same as multiple parties committing infractions under the knowledge of the coaching staff, there's no reason to even discuss this.


Trojan Ace, don't bother. All anti-USC people see is the $$$ amount with Bush...they can't comprehend the difference between an inside job and an outside job. That's the difference between USC and Ohio State or Miami. One is an outside agent, the other two are inside cover-ups by the head honcho and a team booster.
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 1:44 pm
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:44 pm to
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LOL WUT.


4 D1-AA national championships
1 D1-A national championship
5 BCS wins
A shite ton of conference championships

You're right.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:44 pm to
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Really sucks for next year's seniors who did nothing wrong. It's a major flaw in the NCAA penal system.



are they eligible to leave if they want?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:45 pm to
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It's a major flaw in the NCAA penal system.


it does indeed suck for those players but how else could these punishments be handled?

a fine or something similar would just be silly.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:45 pm to
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If you think a two-time convicted felon-- who was not an agent btw-- paying for a house over two hours away from the USC campus (or equidistant from Columbus to Lexington, KY) for ONE player is the same as multiple parties committing infractions under the knowledge of the coaching staff, there's no reason to even discuss this.

Or as the scumbag Paul Dees, whose Miami Hurricanes possibly committed what could be the worst infractions in the history of the ncaa (including the largest Pell Grant fraud scheme in US academic history), when he ruled on the USC case, "USC should have known". Well guess what? OSU did know and tried to cover it up.

Look, I'm glad you all escaped the ludicrous power the ncaa wields. I am pointing out how utterly ridiculous the sanctions levied against the Trojans are in the grand scheme of things.


100% agree



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4 D1-AA national championships
1 D1-A national championship


Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34975 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:46 pm to
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Im not saying TP lied or is OSU football. The two comments I made were unrelated.

Tressell lied and Tressell = OSU football.



My bad for the misread. And my point was we got rid of the biggest source of the problem. With all penalties and other effects coming from the entire situation, I don't get how anyone considers this a slap on the wrist. I don't think we are getting absolutely hammered either. I think we got what we deserved.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8965 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:46 pm to
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Add 1 scholarship and another year of probation to the self-imposed penalties. No bowl ban


LINK

ESPN seems to think you are wrong

Just realized that this has been well discussed already. Oops.

Either way, definitely a slap on the wrist
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:47 pm to
what a slap on the wrist. I guess the NCAA is saying its perfectly okay to flaunt these kinds of things and easily get away with it.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:48 pm to
Id be fine with with no bowl ban and double the scholarship reductions.

This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 1:50 pm
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45842 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:49 pm to
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it does indeed suck for those players but how else could these punishments be handled?

a fine or something similar would just be silly.


I don't know what the solution is honestly.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45842 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:49 pm to
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Id be fine with with no bowl band and double the scholarship reductions.



18 scholarships?
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:49 pm to
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For those of you expecting the hammer to drop...fuggetaboutit (as I've said all along).

Add 1 scholarship and another year of probation to the self-imposed penalties. No bowl ban.

Look for Tressel to get a 5 year show cause.

This is what I'm hearing from people much closer to the situation than I.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:50 pm to
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Id be fine with with no bowl band


well thats def a slap on the wrist.


dont want them to misspell ohio again?
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:51 pm to
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18 scholarships?


Still less than what USC got for lesser crimes.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:51 pm to
There's not one LSU fan on this board that would think they got a slap on the wrist if it were them instead of Ohio State. Fact.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:52 pm to
If Im an OSU fan I consider this a win. Bowl bans are meaningless. Scholarships are all that matters.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 12/20/11 at 1:52 pm to
Why you laughing? Essentially I missed on the bowl ban WHICH IS frickING UNPRECENDENTED for a FTM charge.
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