Offensive player of the week - Joe Burrow - still woeful at defense

How many points has he scored?

At time of 10-0 he’d thrown 2 passes. Including a deep shot to a TE on 3rd and 2

Also has an INT

what a weird reverse melt thread

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How many points has he scored?

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More than Allen

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Oof

Had 3 ints. One on a balll that should’ve been caught, 1 on a ball that slipped out of his hand and ended up a dead duck, and 1 on a great defensive play. Outside of these he REALLY sucked today and definitely ain’t that guy…

38/48 for 462 and 5 TD’s + 1 rushing.

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Had 3 ints. One on a balll that should’ve been caught, 1 on a ball that slipped out of his hand and ended up a dead duck, and 1 on a great defensive play. Outside of these he REALLY sucked today and definitely ain’t that guy…

38/48 for 462 and 5 TD’s + 1 rushing.

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Today was actually a perfect depiction of the historical argument Burrow vs Allen.

I asked AI the following:

For Joe Burrow and Josh Allen in their entire careers, how many games has each caused personally 2 or more turnovers, what is their W-L record in that subset of games and how many points on average did the opposing offense score in that subset of games.

The answers (I'll keep it to regular season to keep it simple (they each only have one postseason game that meets this criterion anyway):

Joe Burrow:
--17 games
--4-13 (.235 winning %)
--points scored against: 30.1

Josh Allen:
--32 games (this is actually A LOT more given he's only been in the league 2 more years than Joe, but I think most of the explanation is how many more games Joe has missed)
--13-19 (.406 winning %)
--points scored against: 23.7

This almost perfectly squares with the argument we see a lot on here about how Burrow gets way less support from his defense - such that when Allen doesn't have his best day, the penalty isn't nearly as high for him as it is for Burrow. It's nearly a full TD+PAT difference!

That is to say:

Both QBs aren't even close to immune to causing a lot of turnovers...

But when they do, Burrow has a much taller wall to climb to still win the game.

Allen's D tends to keep opponents in the low to mid 20s, even when he does poorly, while Burrow ends up having to win crazy shootouts in the 30s and 40s.


I love both of these guys but it's crazy to act like Burrow isn't in a worse situation. It's even crazier to act like he's not great.

Haha I love when dumbasses out themselves.