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re: Objectively, is college football a hell of a lot more entertaining now?

Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:41 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:41 am to
College football is more entertaining NOW?

When two teams dominate.

Hell, it was 10X more entertaining from 2000-2010.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:59 am to
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College football is more entertaining NOW?

When two teams dominate.

Hell, it was 10X more entertaining from 2000-2010.




Magic and Bird play in the Finals every year during the ‘80s. Golden era for NBA. Yankees and Dodgers play each other in the World Series six times in ten years during the late ‘40s and 50s. Golden era for baseball. 49ers and Cowboys dominate the NFL during the ‘90s. Golden era for NFL. Clemson and Alabama dominate college football in the 2010s. College football sucks. There’s no parity and it’s too top heavy.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58058 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:08 am to
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What I thought was good back then really isn't when compared to today's standards. I think it all changed around 2008. Last years three QB competition was gawdy.


That has a lot to do w/rule changes. You used to be able to maul WRs in coverage and smash their brains in with hits over the middle while QBs could get destroyed w/no fricks given.

These days even a perfect form tackle can get you flagged if you hit the guy too hard.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 1:15 am
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 9:34 am to
College football is on a death spiral due to only a handful of teams having a shot of winning anything significant. It’s fun for the fans of teams that have a shot but that isn’t sustainable.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2723 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:08 am to
Over saturation is what is killing the game. Universities have started chasing huge media deals and have sold their souls.

The NFL is great because of parity. NCAA use to be better because of more parity than what we see now. 20 teams use to have a shot at a title. Plus OOC rivalries were played early in the season and they meant something. Now we have 1 game neutral site showdowns between name programs. Play those home and home instead.

Money has taken over the sport and it is killing it. Same with March Madness.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:15 am to
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It actually kind of sucks considering there is only like 6-7 teams every year that actually matter and the rest are average.



I see this every year thru the first 3 weeks. There will undoubtedly be upset comings that shake the landscape.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:21 am to
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There will undoubtedly be upset comings that shake the landscape.
The upsets won't really affect that 6-7 number any though. It just might move 1 team out and 1 in. When it's in the perspective of over 100 teams, that's nothing.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:42 am to
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Not too long ago, mid P5 schools used to go 7-4, 8-3, with the occasional 6-5, make to a decent bowl game, and call it a great year 

This. I can remember South Carolina going 9-3 in 2001 and it being like heaven. We were only 2 years removed from losing 21 straight games. We beat OSU in the Outback Bowl for the 2nd straight year.

Nowadays, 9-3 isn't satisfying, even at a school with little to no football success like South Carolina. It's the playoff or bust, which for 95% of programs is virtually unattainable.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35476 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:55 am to
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Magic and Bird play in the Finals every year during the ‘80s. Golden era for NBA


People liked Magic and Bird.

People don't like Bama and Nick Saban.

At least when USC was playing for national titles they were playing different teams...Michigan, Oklahoma and then Texas.

Then you had LSU, Florida slugging it out for the SEC championship.

Not just Bama rolling through everyone in the SEC to set up another rematch with Clemson.

The fun of college football WAS the unpredictable nature of it with 125 teams.

All your references were to Pro sports and why people hated and turned AWAY from Pro sports because they liked the topsy-turvy nature of college sports.

Now college football is just like Pro football...Pats again, Bama again...Warriors again, Bama again...boring as frick.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:58 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:10 pm to
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The fun of college football WAS the unpredictable nature of it with 125 teams.


Bold = previous consensus national champions

Source = Associated Press

2000 Final Top Five

1. Oklahoma
2. Miami (FL)
3. Washington

4. Oregon State
5. Florida State

2001 Final Top Five

1. Miami (FL)
2. Oregon
3. Florida
4. Tennessee
5. Texas


2002 Final Top Five

1. Ohio State
2. Miami (FL)
3. Georgia
4. USC
5. Oklahoma


2003 Final Top Five

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Miami (FL)


2004 Final Top Five

1. USC
2. Auburn
3. Oklahoma

4. Utah
5. Texas

2005 Final Top Five

1. Texas
2. USC
3. Penn State
4. Ohio State

5. West Virginia

2006 Final Top Five

1. Florida
2. Ohio State
3. LSU
4. USC

5. Boise State

2007 Final Top Five

1. LSU
2. Georgia
3. USC

4. Missouri
5. Ohio State

2008 Final Top Five

1. Florida
2. Utah
3. USC
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma

2009 Final Top Five

1. Alabama
2. Texas
3. Florida

4. Boise State
5. Ohio State

Please tell me how unpredictable it was. The haves have always ruled college football. In fact...the latest two teams to win their first national championships in college football were Florida State in 1993 and Florida in 1996. It has been 23 years since a team that hadn't won a national championship before finally broke through and won one.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
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Objectively, is college football a hell of a lot more entertaining now?

It's basically the NBA. Bombs away offense and only a handful of teams have an actual shot at winning the title.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6912 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:25 pm to
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The upsets won't really affect that 6-7 number any though


Well duh, there are only 6-7 contenders every year. This isn't some new discovery.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86465 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:34 pm to
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.the latest two teams to win their first national championships in college football were Florida State in 1993 and Florida in 1996. It has been 23 years since a team that hadn't won a national championship before finally broke through and won one.


I don't really see how that's relevant. A team winning a championship other than their first doesn't really matter compared to nowadays when literally the same 3/4 teams are going to win it going into the season.

Looking at the years you quotes there's 8 (!) different teams ranked 1st in that 10 year span. Compare that to now when it's pretty much mostly just bama and clemson.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Not just Bama rolling through everyone in the SEC to set up another rematch with Clemson.


Actually, no, and this is a HUGE part of the problem.

Bama doesn't "roll through the SEC".

CFB has made it clear Bama is a team that can finish third in the SEC, and still make a playoff.

This doesn't happen, along with some very blatant obvious "breaks" that only go certain team's way, CFB is more popular today.

Downvote me. Don't care.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86465 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:40 pm to
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CFB has made it clear Bama is a team that can finish third in the SEC, and still make a playoff.



It continues to absolutely blow my mind that after 5 years of hte playoffs some people still can't grasp how they make their decisions.

I want to ask you right now officially for the record...who should have gone to the playoffs in 2017 instead of alabama? Because that's obviously the year you're referencing.

1) Ohio State, which had 2 losses (compared to bama's 1), including a 30 points beatdown to a 5 loss Iowa, or

2) Wisconsin, who like bama had 1 loss but also was not a conference winner

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
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This doesn't happen


Ever hear of 2001 Nebraska? Read up on them.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
I think the NCAA should cut football scholarship limits in half to encourage parity.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:41 pm to
Ok so.....,.....
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 1:42 pm to
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I think the NCAA should cut football scholarship limits in half to encourage parity.


You mean like they did 40 years ago? Didn't seem to matter much. You still had dynasties like Miami, Florida State, and Nebraska rule college football for an extended period of time.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 9/20/19 at 2:50 pm to
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about 20% of the schools can actually win a title, so while it may be entertaining its incredibly broken currently.


Nah
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