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re: Not a single player in the National League is hitting .300
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:53 pm to cubsfan5150
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:53 pm to cubsfan5150
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But you also mustn’t assume that present knowledge is infallible
Correct that’s why analytics uses data.
No one said bunting is bad because the olds did it that way. They produced data that proves it. The problem is most people do not understand probability and think if the “new strategy” doesn’t “work” 100% of the time proves it doesn’t work.
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:55 pm to OceanMan
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At the end of the day, you want someone that can put the ball in play when they need to. BA is just the simplest way of beginning to demonstrate who can do that with statistics
Luis Arraez led the league in hits in 2024 and wasn’t in the top 25 in the league getting on base
If the goal is to score runs, how is that more valuable vs players that get on base more frequently?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:55 pm to OceanMan
quote:which was all well and good back in the 70s when we didnt have computers and statistical analysis but now we do and that allows us to dive deeper and try to find ways that more accurately convey performance
o. BA is just the simplest way of beginning to demonstrate who can do that with statistics.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:56 pm to Madking
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stop lying about people.
I literally copy and posted your post, those are your words what am i lying about? And what am i dancing around?
I suspect you won’t answer but will instead come back with another silly comment
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:57 pm to chadr07
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Sounds to me like the pitching is getting a bit tougher to hit.
When all you’re doing is swinging for the fences every at bat, instead of making contact/hitting to opp field you are going to make pitchers look better than they are.
MLB is all about the HR, much like the NBA is all about the 3 point shot.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 2:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I’m flat out telling you what analytics says is simply that getting on base, regardless of how, is what’s most important.
Yet we’re on a run on low OBP that we haven’t seen since prior to the mound being lowered.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:00 pm to H-Town Tiger
“Good old Irony King describes himself thinking he’s insulting another.”
“Of course no one versed in analytics would argue lower BA leads to more runs in and of itself. Thats silly. You are the one ignoring a key fact, (On Base Percentage). I’m not “dancing around” anything. I’m flat out telling you what analytics says is simply that getting on base, regardless of how, is what’s most important.”
I didn’t say any of this so again you’re lying
“Of course no one versed in analytics would argue lower BA leads to more runs in and of itself. Thats silly. You are the one ignoring a key fact, (On Base Percentage). I’m not “dancing around” anything. I’m flat out telling you what analytics says is simply that getting on base, regardless of how, is what’s most important.”
I didn’t say any of this so again you’re lying
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:01 pm to WestCoastAg
BA and runs scored were both low in the 70s.
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:03 pm to OceanMan
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At the end of the day, you want someone that can put the ball in play when they need to
At the end of the day what you want is to score more runs than the other team. To that you need people to get on base. BA does not demonstrate that. OBP does.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:06 pm to Madking
Luis Arraez has a career BA 35 points higher than Juan Soto's career BA. Arraez had to sign a measly 1 year contract this past offseason at 27 years old. Arraez hasn't even made $50M yet in his career. Soto just signed a contract that will pay him over $50M over the next FIFTEEN years. If this doesn't show that power is more productive than average, i don't know what to tell the Boomers on this board. I guess you guys really are smarter than all of MLB
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:07 pm to Lester Earl
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Luis Arraez led the league in hits in 2024 and wasn’t in the top 25 in the league getting on base
If the goal is to score runs, how is that more valuable vs players that get on base more frequently?
I'm not sure what you are asking me. How is what more valuable than getting on base?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:08 pm to TigerReb7
That’s a lot of typing to say something so irrelevant
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:09 pm to OceanMan
They’re trying desperately to move the goal post from what was originally stated.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:11 pm to Madking
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I didn’t say any of this so again you’re lying
This is what you said
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No, you’re just dancing around a simple fact to prove something you don’t understand.
It’s ironic because you are the one that doesn’t understand not me and you saying i don’t understand is clearly meant to be an insult. It’s called interpreting what someone said.
If you think because it wasn’t a direct quote that is “lying” then that type of 2 dimensional thinking explains your lack of understanding about analytics
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:13 pm to OceanMan
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How is what more valuable than getting on base?
At the end of the day, you want someone that can put the ball in play when they need to.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:14 pm to Madking
quote:With completely equal fielding and pitching, do you think a team of the top 9 in the league for batting average would beat the top 9 in the league for OPS?
That’s a lot of typing to say something so irrelevant
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:18 pm to TigerReb7
You don’t think there’s any overlap there?
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:20 pm to cubsfan5150
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Yet we’re on a run on low OBP that we haven’t seen since prior to the mound being lowered.
How does that disprove the point that getting on base is what’s most important?
If offense is down that says nothing about analytics, it just says offense is down. Same thing as someone said about the 70s. BA and runs were lower in the 70s offense was down
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
Wrong again
Posted on 7/13/25 at 3:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
Wow, you’re insane. It all makes sense now.
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