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Nomar Garciaparra and steroids
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:38 am
So i never really heard his name mentioned with steroids before and i was searching for a SI cover and i came across this from 2001.
From 97-03 he hit 169 HR, averaging ~30 per 162
From 04-09 he's hit 56 HR, averaging ~18 per 162
And 04-09 was age 30-35 a time when smaller guys natually develop more power.
From 97-03 he hit 169 HR, averaging ~30 per 162
From 04-09 he's hit 56 HR, averaging ~18 per 162
And 04-09 was age 30-35 a time when smaller guys natually develop more power.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:44 am to barry
The guys in the P90X informercials look bigger and more ripped.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:46 am to barry
I am convinced that 90% of players during that era were on steroids, and you know what? I am fricking glad they did it HRs got me interested in the game in the first place.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:51 am to barry
he looks like any other guy who works out alot and eats right
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:53 am to barry
Nothing that couldnt be done with a good diet and decent workout regimen....
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
I guess his power numbers just magically declined in the middle of his prime.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 10:56 am to barry
30-35 is hardly the prime of his career. Most people in baseball consider your prime years 25-29.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:00 am to ATL_Tiger
Also, righties hitting at Fenway will tend to have massively inflated stats due to the short left porch. Nagging injuries also deflated his career after he left Boston.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:01 am to ATL_Tiger
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Most people in baseball consider your prime years 25-29.
No they don't. Your prime is usually 6 to 7 years spanning from your late 20's to early 30's
27-33 ish
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:04 am to TunaTigers
I know you don't generally see power hitters at SS, and the big power hitter Shortstops (Arod and Tejada) were both using, but Nomar was a beast. He has crazy routines that he does obsessively, and I think he was just a solid player. Also, playing in Boston is completely different from playing anywhere else and that atmosphere had to have contributed to some of his success.
Also, his '06 season wasn't bad. (.303-20-93)
It's a tough call, but he has never failed a drug test.
Also, his '06 season wasn't bad. (.303-20-93)
It's a tough call, but he has never failed a drug test.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:04 am to ATL_Tiger
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Nagging injuries also deflated his career after he left Boston.
His HR per 162 is stil cut in half. Take griffey for example, his HR per 162 was 43 with SEA. He was riddled with injury in Cincy and he still hit 38 per 162. And that was age 30-37.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:05 am to JBennett
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It's a tough call, but he has never failed a drug test.
How many have?Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:11 am to barry
I would bet he was tested "anonymously" in '03 with Manny and Papi.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:13 am to barry
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Nagging injuries also deflated his career after he left Boston.
His HR per 162 is stil cut in half. Take griffey for example, his HR per 162 was 43 with SEA. He was riddled with injury in Cincy and he still hit 38 per 162. And that was age 30-37.
lol, different people respond differently to injuries. Griffey's stroke was pretty effortless...so even with injuries, his swing was still smooth as butter. Watch Garciaparra's swing and how much more violent his swing is in comparison.
Just because one guy can put up stats while injured doesn't mean everyone can.
And like I mentioned before, inflated stats due to Fenway.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:25 am to barry
do peope really consider 7 yrs to be the length of the usual prime? i dont know about that, that's way too long
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:28 am to AreJay
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do peope really consider 7 yrs to be the length of the usual prime?
Id say its on the high side, but 5-7 would be typical. This is of course assuming the guy is an everyday starter. Most career's don't consist of starting every day for 10 plus years.
ETA: Also this isn't necessarily there statistical prime, but that brief window when there physical skills and mental skills are parallel.
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:32 am to barry
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"Those 28-year-olds, by the way, might have the best stat line of the bunch; that is, if the 31-year-olds don't. Suffice to say, from the chart above, it's clear a player's prime runs about six or seven years, from ages 26 through 32. "
"Those 28-year-olds, by the way, might have the best stat line of the bunch; that is, if the 31-year-olds don't. Suffice to say, from the chart above, it's clear a player's prime runs about six or seven years, from ages 26 through 32. "
This post was edited on 2/3/10 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:37 am to Lsut81
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Nothing that couldnt be done with a good diet and decent workout regimen....
yeah he's not jacked up or super cut
but the big veins on both biceps? hmmm
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:45 am to AreJay
The prime usually starts around 26. I'd say it lasts at least 5years. 7 isn't unreasonable, that would only make them 33. In reference to Nomar, he's going on 37. His prime was in the late 90s-early 00s, perfect prime time.
Posted on 2/3/10 at 11:49 am to barry
Griffey having leg injuries isn't the same as Nomar having a wrist injury over multiple seasons that never healed properly.
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