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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:07 am to Sophandros
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:07 am to Sophandros
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Right now the main defense in a rape case is to try to discredit the accuser by any means necessary
That is how the legal system works. It is unfortunate but the standard cannot be allegation=guilty, period.
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:08 am to DeonG
"Mr. Winston's defense, and Mr. Winston maintains his innocence. We voluntarily submitted DNA last week."
-Jansen (Winston's attorney)
-Jansen (Winston's attorney)
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:08 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:I didn't say it did, did I?
Male sexuality does not equal rapist.
quote:Rapists are people who commit rape.
Criminals are rapists
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:09 am to the808bass
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2. They most likely were raped to report being raped.
Wow.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:09 am to TC16
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"However, either the Tallahassee Police Department or Mr. Meggs' office has decided they're going to improperly leak evidence to the media. We are saddened to learn that someone has decided to leak evidence to the public before Mr. Meggs has had time to make a decision. The improperly leaked report, if true, has zero impact on Mr. Winston's defense, and Mr. Winston maintains his innocence. We voluntarily submitted DNA last week."
LINK
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:10 am to the808bass
You also realize that these surveys are given by an organization with an agenda, right? They can define anything they want as "rape" so their point is supported by the survey. This survey's definition of "rape" could be so low so that what Mettenberger did at UGa is "rape".
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:10 am to the808bass
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I would argue that a guy who's used to getting all he could handle, might not be as careful about some of the niceties of sexual politics
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I didn't say it did, did I?
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Rapists are people who commit rape.
Rapists are a criminal class. they are not the ordinary Joe. "Getting all he could handle" consensually has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:10 am to DeonG
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Find me a flaw in the methodology
show me his definition of "rape", b/c that's almost assuredly the flaw/issue
if we want to expand the definition of rape to the extent these studies like to use, then we need to double and more the rates of unreported rapes, b/c drunk guys have sex all the time and are raped by women (while, technically, the man is raping the girl).
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:10 am to DeonG
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Wow.
What's the percentage of false rape allegations? I'll wait.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:11 am to the808bass
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Rapists are people who commit rape.
No no. Rapists are those who are accused of rape.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:11 am to the808bass
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What's the percentage of false rape allegations? I'll wait.
41%
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:14 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:11 am to DeonG
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DeonG
You sound very scared of being falsely accused of rape. I am not sure why anyone would have such a fear unless you engage in borderline rapey behavior...
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:11 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Rapists are a criminal class. they are not the ordinary Joe. "Getting all he could handle" consensually has nothing to do with it.
This is an odd point of view. Are you asserting being rapey is genetic?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:12 am to Sophandros
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I posted a link from the government regarding the rate of reporting.
the government doesn't have a very good definition of rape, and it's a sexist slant that envisions females being so stupid that they can't drink and have sex, while males can. that's terrible and sexist
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:12 am to KCT
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I haven't read this entire thread, but has anything come out about the person who allegedly witnessed the rape?
I don't know about if ti is that witness, but Winston's attorney has had two witnesses give affidavits to the state attorney that are expected to clear Jameis, one of which has been interviewed. But OP felt like leaving that part of the timeline out.
Why is the exculpating evidence from two witnesses not in the timeline?
LINK
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:12 am to DeonG
Awesome link.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:13 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
I know for every "Well he did this" can be returned with "Well she said this" but why would he voluntarily submit to a DNA swab if he did this. Especially submit to it before her side of the story came out yesterday. Wouldn't he just stay quiet and not give up anything in hopes that it gets dropped with lack of evidence? Wouldn't he just wait until a DNA swab was taken during the trial?
Especially since he has said literally nothing since all of this came out?
Especially since he has said literally nothing since all of this came out?
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:14 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:13 am to the808bass
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Are you asserting being rapey is genetic?
Nice strawman.
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This is an odd point of view
Because as a hetero man rape is a disgusting thing to think about.
The psychology of rapists is usually unique, even among other sexual deviancy. Which gets back to my point that ordinary hetero men do not think about raping people because its disgusting to them.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:13 am to Sophandros
well, one thing is obvious. If the act concluded at 2:00 AM and the girl showed up at the police station at 4AM, this is not a case of the girl just being embarrassed or feeling remorseful later.
Either the girl is being truthful, or else you would almost have to say she trapped him and planned this. Since Winston was not even playing last year, it's hard to believe that the girl specifically targeted him.
Let it play out, but right now I would say that Winston, FSU authorities, and Tallahassee law enforcement aren't looking too good.
Either the girl is being truthful, or else you would almost have to say she trapped him and planned this. Since Winston was not even playing last year, it's hard to believe that the girl specifically targeted him.
Let it play out, but right now I would say that Winston, FSU authorities, and Tallahassee law enforcement aren't looking too good.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:13 am to SoFla Tideroller
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You also realize that these surveys are given by an organization with an agenda, right? They can define anything they want as "rape" so their point is supported by the survey. This survey's definition of "rape" could be so low so that what Mettenberger did at UGa is "rape".
Why don't you find one of their definitions and post it?
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