re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

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Can we get one thing straight. She's not a possible victim or a probable victim. She is an alleged victim. "Probable" victim? Get off the internet and go read some books. Technology has ruined some of you.

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uh, i was responding to another poster's comment on that.

Calling her a probable rape victim has completely different meaning than an alleged victim

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She's not a possible victim or a probable victim.

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I get your point, but "possible victim" is correct (along with "alleged victim).

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The witness affidavits were signed before the DNA test, so his story has probably being consensual the entire time, o

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Youre delusional

Right out of the gate JWs lawyer said two things, he was not involved and his name was being intermingled with a PD rape report.

That was back when he though the case was closed. He even volunteered DNA (to keep his client from being arressted in order to obtain the DNA)

Then there was the DNA match

Suddenly his client was involved and he was the main suspect, so the story had to be changed to consenual and witnesses to back that up.

Where was the mention of witnesses when his name was 'intermingled' with the real criminal?

Then when asked was he saying the victim consented to sex, he clearly said "I am not saying that"

Now he is outraged that the DNA was leaked. Uh, what about you getting the 1st leak that JW was accused of rape? And if you would have said it was consenual from day 1, then no one would be stunned at the DNA match

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a man with his DNA in a womans panties

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Evidence of sex.

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police photos of her injuries

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That no one on here has seen.

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his own lawyer not confirming that the sex was consenua

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I've seen you saying this a few times without a link, so here is a link that says the exact opposite.

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“I don’t think it’s a secret what the defense is when I tell you that we are not surprised his DNA was found,” Jansen said. “We anticipated it would be found. We never, ever said he wasn’t there.”

Jansen, when asked whether sex between Winston and the complainant was consensual, responded by saying, “absolutely.” He condemned the leak of the DNA report, saying it harmed Winston’s reputation.

“We are not surprised with the results of the DNA,” he said. “The only thing we are surprised by is it was leaked out by law enforcement. The question the people should ask is why is it being leaked? For what purpose?”

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LINK


And another thing that gets tossed to the side in this thread.

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Jansen, on Thursday, said Winston will be exonerated, in part because of the accounts from two witnesses. Jansen said DNA was collected from one of the witnesses as well. He did not say why DNA wasn’t taken from Winston earlier.

“The eyewitnesses who were there will verify that any material that was found or any evidence that was found is consistent with him (doing) nothing wrong,” Jansen said.

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LINK

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Right out of the gate JWs lawyer said two things, he was not involved and his name was being intermingled with a PD rape report.

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Did he say not involved or intermingled? Because the two cannot co-exist. You keep hanging your hat on this statement, so let's put the full quote out there.

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Tallahassee police have released a heavily redacted police report documenting a sexual assault allegation. Jansen would not comment on the document, but said his client's name "has been intermingled" with the investigation.

Winston's name does not appear in the redacted version of the complaint, dated December 7, and a suspect description includes a height ranging between 5-foot-9 and 5-foot-11 -- several inches shorter than the 6-foot-4 quarterback. Jansen said he had given investigators sworn statements from witnesses "that we believe are favorable to Mr. Winston," and those witnesses had been interviewed by police.

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Did you expect his attorney to say out of the gate that my client, who has not been named the suspect, is the suspect in a sexual assault case?

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I don't know and you don't know what those affidavits say.

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I've already admitted that. I said that if it isn't consistent with the consensual sex story than he would be in DEEP DEEP shite. I think charges would have been filed already

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Three days ago, FSU supporters were saying one of the affidavits was from her friend. Turns out all of the affidavits are from other football players.

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Link? People were saying that this morning. Doesn't really change much for me

I find the statement from her attorney strange.

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That isn't the actions of a lawyer defending someone completely innocent.

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What a ridiculous statement. He has a job to do and that is to mitigate risk against his client. His client has allegations against him, so it is his job to prevent charges and keep his client out of jail.

He owes the media absolutely nothing and shouldn't say anything that does not need to be said.

You have repeatedly thrown that out there, and it could not be further from the truth. He's guilty b/c of his attorney's statements? please

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according to people familiar with the case

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Well, it's not exactly official. I'll take that with a grain of salt. I didn't remember it wasn't verified. Thanks for the quote.

Which is why the police department doesn't typically give the police report to the defense lawyer. The defense can then get affidavits to muddy the waters and contradict the accuser's statement.