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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:01 am to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:01 am to
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Which is why the police department doesn't typically give the police report to the defense lawyer. The defense can then get affidavits to muddy the waters and contradict the accusers statement.



I think one thing that can be universally agreed upon is that the TPD is completely incompetent

No doubt a civil lawsuit will get filed against them based on the last release from her attorney...and she should easily win
This post was edited on 11/23/13 at 10:02 am
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:02 am to
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The difference is that he has a legitimate attorney calling his shots instead of a family friend going to the media.

Yet, heres another example of your delusion

Her "family friend," used to be a state prosecutor
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State prosecutor State Attorney's Office, Sixth Judicial Circuit October 1999 - February 2001 (1 year 5 months) Prosecuted for the State Attorney's Office in the areas of Attempted Murder, Domestic Violence, Driving Under the influence, Theft

I think she is fully versed in cases such as this
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:02 am to
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TPD is completely incompetent
That's a charitable characterization of what appears more like collusion and coverup. They may hope to be characterized only as incompetent by the time this is done.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:04 am to
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Yet, heres another example of your delusion

Her "family friend," used to be a state prosecutor


cool. Did you read the statement that the family friend released yesterday? Not at all proffesional
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:06 am to
No, link?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:07 am to
you can't use google?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:08 am to
In that same interview he says that the DNA results have no impact whatsoever on the case and that the two eye witnesses will exonerate Winston, and the only purpose of leaking the DNA results was to tarnish Winston's reputation.


But, I think most important, he says "we have never said the DNA would not match. We have never talked about the facts of the case." He says I don't think it is a secret what the defense is.


The exchange:

So are you confirming that DNA matched your client? I can't confirm anything because I haven't seen it, but I'm not surprised by the results because we fully anticipated that his DNA may be there, but that has nothing to do with him being exonerated.

So you are saying this was consensual? Absolutely.

So, they had sex and this was consensual? I'm not saying that. I'm saying the eyewitnesses who were there will verify that any material that is found is consistent with him (JW) doing nothing wrong.


So, it is possible when he said, I'm not saying that, he was simple trying not to comment further on the facts of the case. He said it was consensual, then he said I'm not saying that when pressed about "sex," but his stance did not waver. He still maintained that the witnesses would prove no wrong doing.

EDIT: He says shortly after that he does not want to comment on the facts of the case.


Do you honestly think he was trying to say it was nonconsensual sex? That he was admitting rape, when he emphatically states over and over that the two witnesses will exonerate his client of any wrong doing and that he anticipated the results of the DNA test?

Starts at 5:30
This post was edited on 11/23/13 at 10:22 am
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:09 am to
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you can't use google?
You brought it up
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
25056 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:11 am to
Forced Sex University
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:12 am to
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quote:
you can't use google?
You brought it up


I can't really take someone seriously if they haven't even read the statement released by the family.

LINK

I'm off the game
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:12 am to
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both of whom are FSU football players, according to people familiar with the case


A lot of people are spewing shite that they got form people "familiar with the case." I haven't heard anyone say that both witnesses are football players publicly.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:12 am to
Once again, her attorney released the statement, not some family friend
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“To be clear, the victim did not consent. This was a rape,” the statement said.

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that assertion was “too little, too late,” calling it a self-serving and misplaced effort at “reactive damage control” in the face of matching DNA results.

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“What is significant is that the DNA matched the person identified by the victim to law enforcement back in January 2013,”

I fail to see the lack of professionalism
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:13 am to
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All you have confirmed is that his lawyer stance has changed with the addition of new information/facts.



Can you tell me what stance has changed, I must have missed it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:13 am to
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Do you honestly think he was trying to say it was nonconsensual sex? That he was admitting rape, when he emphatically states over and over that the two witnesses will exonerate his client of any wrong doing and that he anticipated the results of the DNA test?
He is obviously dancing on something. It's impossible to say right now what that something is.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:15 am to
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Once again, her attorney released the statement, not some family friend



I never said otherwise. I said that her attorney is a family friend. Jesus.

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I fail to see the lack of professionalism



shocker
This post was edited on 11/23/13 at 10:16 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:18 am to
Do you have a lot of experience with lawyers' press releases?
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:32 am to
rather he ends up convicted or not. he WILL be charged and this season for fsu goes down the drain. I couldnt imagine a worse ending if i were a fan.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:33 am to
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I never said otherwise.

You can no longer be taken seriously
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The difference is that he has a legitimate attorney calling his shots instead of a family friend going to the media.

What makes him a legit attorney and her family friend, a former state prosecutor not?


Does everyone supporting Winston keep changing their story, like this poster? Or am I the only one getting that vibe?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:35 am to
I was saying that the qbs attorney is good at his job and the family friend isn't. Pretty easy to understand but I guess I gave you too much credit. Her attorney is a family friend. Not sure how else I have to say that

I haven't changed my story at all. I'm of the opinion that he should be charged if the affidivats don't match the consensual sex story.
This post was edited on 11/23/13 at 10:38 am
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15603 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 10:40 am to
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Favors Thompson (City Manager) said that an attorney representing the victim's family said she "changed her mind and did not wish to prosecute."


LINK

It is also strange that a family attorney decided not to press charges at some point, and then that all changed when the media got involved. The police obstruction story came to light, 7 months after the family revived the toxicology reports. Seems like the family's story keeps changing too.
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