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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 11/22/13 at 7:54 am to
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 7:54 am to
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Football rules all in the south.


Which brings up a Barry Petchesky quote on the comment section of the deadspin FSU teacher article from yesterday:

quote:

There's absolutely no reason amateur sports should be paired with college other than an accident of history.


Spot on IMHO.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 7:56 am to
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I agree completely. I'm not saying the Bama fans are bad people, I just don't think it is a coincidence they are the Sec fans talking the most about it. Same way us lsu fans were drooling in the corner when we thought Bama would get busted for fluker


I appreciate your clarification but it may be because JW is a)from an area highly concentrated with Bama fans and b)there is a higher level of interest in the situation from those it affects more.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:01 am to
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I don't disagree, but if you told someone 60 years ago that there will be a day a southern town helps cover up for a black man who raped a white woman they would have said you have lost your damn mind


Oh without a doubt this ^^^ but they would be accusing you of insanity based wholly on their limited scope of knowledge as well, it's totally believable now.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:09 am to
Is/was that part of Florida a racist area? How would it compare to the likes of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28247 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:09 am to
JW was not a star last Dec. Why would TPD cover up a rape for some random college athlete? I don't buy it.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:11 am to
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South has done a complete 180 in the last 60 years

Meh

All we know is that a detective named Angulo didnt do his job. I assume he is Hispanic which means he probably doesnt give a frick about racial history between black/white.

Now that its moved into the spotlight, other forces may be at work, including age old biases
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:12 am to
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JW was not a star last Dec. Why would TPD cover up a rape for some random college athlete?


Star baseball player?
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
5428 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:14 am to
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Star baseball player


And also the #1 rated QB and #10 rated player in his class.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10323 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:14 am to
He was a 5* QB out of high school. People knew who he was.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:16 am to
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JW was not a star last Dec. Why would TPD cover up a rape for some random college athlete? I don't buy it.


I'm sure there was enough to go on with his name being a "brand" already as a high profile recruit. These are cops in a position to know who he was and in a position to know what local power brokers may make THEIR careers miserable if they didn't try their best to keep a lid on the situation. JW wasn't random at that point. I'm not 100% sure of course how things went down but something sure seems fishy by their actions or lack thereof.
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:17 am to
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Star baseball player?


Baseball season hadn't started yet
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:21 am to
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He was a 5* QB out of high school. People knew who he was.
Exactly. Which brings up this point. He was so popular the TPD was willing to cover up rape, but not popular enough for a girl to know who he was even though he was invited to her apartment by a friend(allegedly). You would think someone would have told her. That's one thing that is hard for me to wrap my head around.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:22 am to
People knew who the kid was gimme a break. If fournette enrolled at LSU in the summer, students are gonna know who he is. Add that he's a 2 sport athlete and there's even more hype.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:25 am to
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People knew who the kid was gimme a break. If fournette enrolled at LSU in the summer, students are gonna know who he is. Add that he's a 2 sport athlete and there's even more hype.
Ok so you agree it is very strange the girl didnt know who the hell he was when she went to the hospital?
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:28 am to
Your average sorority girl, no. Not strange at all.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:30 am to
You're assuming a number of things that we simply don't know.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111402 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:31 am to
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Your average sorority girl, no. Not strange at all.
Bull shite. They know. The other part of the story that is very strange from the victims side is how the hell did the parents allow this case to drop. How could a father just let this get swept away and watch college football on Saturday with the media swooning over the man that raped your daughter? These are the two things from the victims side that don't add up for me
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11500 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:32 am to
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Ok so you agree it is very strange the girl didnt know who the hell he was when she went to the hospital?


The girl might not have, but Tallahassee's finest damn sure did.
Posted by tigerbaittrick
Member since Jan 2010
7267 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:34 am to
I don't understand that either. If my daughter told me she was raped there would be no way I'd shrug it off.

A lot of this shite is fishy but not looking good for Winston.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69083 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 8:36 am to
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Ok so you agree it is very strange the girl didnt know who the hell he was when she went to the hospital?



You're making the assumption that the police report accurately reflected what she told the cops. Cops frick up police reports all the time and given the track record of tally PD, I am assuming the police report is full of errors.
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