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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:20 pm to
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Congrats. I generally consider detached moderation a tell-tale sign of modesty, intelligence, and objectivity. Sometimes it's simply a mark of intellectual laziness or cowardice, however.




The legal system in this country is a beautiful thing. Can you say beyond reasonable doubt that Winston raped the accuser? No, you cannot. That same reasonable doubt standard should apply to the accuser. Can you say beyond a reasonable doubt that she was not raped by Winston or that she was not raped at all? No, you cannot.

Winston is a free man, and I have no problem with that whatsoever. I also do not feel the need to belittle the accuser. Pretty simple.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

League Champs


A few weeks ago you claimed Jansen leaked that the accuser described her attacker as 5'9 to 5'11. Just now you claimed it was FSU fans.

That is 100% incorrect. That came from the official police report released by TPD to the media/TMZ.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 4:23 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:28 pm to
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Just now you claimed it was FSU fans.

Learn to read

I said they were pushing th 5'11" descrepancy as if he wasnt the one. Not even there

Then the DNA came out, proving he was there , and was the one

Yet the FSU tards (cough,cough) kept ranting about the physical description

So today, the description was released and lo and behold, he was described fairly accurately.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:30 pm to
Might be late, but did yall see Jamal Roberts was the 2nd DNA match? football player at kent state that went to victims high school
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:31 pm to
Doesn't matter...No charges

Just like people want to hate on the Zim Zam, he was not guilty either
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:34 pm to
if he didnt do it, im glad no charges were filed. if he did do it and got away with it because of police incompetence/collusion, i hope he breaks his neck playing football and is paralyzed for life.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:34 pm to
So how is it wrong for FSU fans to push it? EVERYONE pushed it, not only FSU fans. Why? Because it is fact that she told police 5'9 to 5'11.

This is what the media gave us at the time. There is nothing wrong with looking at 5'9 to 5'11 and saying 'well that certainly doesn't match Winston'

None of this matters, it's over



This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:36 pm to
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victims high school


I believe now the best term to use is the "accused"
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:39 pm to
Not Winston related, but I might have to get one of these shirts
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:44 pm to
So what happens if she files a civil suit?
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

SaintCajun


That guy is awesome

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

So what happens if she files a civil suit?

She probably loses and gets her entire sexual history made public.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:48 pm to
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Also random: Do rapists usually wear condoms?

It is not unusual.
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:49 pm to
What happens to him? Just court?
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128271 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:50 pm to
Jameis raped Nelson Mandela to death.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Noted. I'm 30, went to school in the NE, and have heard every possible sensitivity brief since being a naval officer. So shut the frick up.

quote:
Elizabeth Smart didn't want to go home after being kidnapped & raped because losing her virginity made her feel guilty & ashamed. Felt worthless because of what she was taught about girls & sex.


Comparing that case to thse sorts. My parents and I literally wept when she was found alive. We had some very good LDS friends at the time, and no one could believe it. Comparing this to false date-rape is a joke. Shut the frick up.


Honestly I don't care about your 'sensitivity' training considering the number of military sex scandals & your snippy attitude calling a teenage girl a 'tramp' . Real becoming of a Naval Officer & a testament to your great military 'sensitivity' training I guess.


Sorry you & your Mother were so personally invested in a young girl (Smart) you never knew(one of thousands that go missing).

I wasn't comparing the cases 'Mr Sensitivity' I was only making the point of how young girls are taught about sex. Having sex makes them 'worthless' 'tramps'(your term) whores' sluts' & like Smart says(like used up chewing gum). The sexist double standards puts a lot of pressure on young girls to suppress their sexuality & be embarrassed about it & subsequently ashamed.


Who knows what happened , but the girl was probably a bit tipsy & felt that she was at least ' taken advantage ' of.

That being said I think the Prosecutor obviously would have had a tough case & did the right thing.


Thought I was gonna have a civil exchange ,but I guess that was naive considering a Naval Officer(Mr Sensitivity) is calling teenaged girls 'tramps' because they dare have sex (like most boys her age are encouraged , expected & damn near applauded).
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80339 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:51 pm to
Those FSU students Schlabach talked to sound absolutely retarded. Not that students from any other football school would sound any smarter.
Posted by jglass3lsu
Member since Jan 2007
885 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:09 pm to
Sounds like the prosecutors had enough evidence (accusation/dna/witnesses) to put this before a grand jury and get an indictment.

He may have eventually been acquitted, but a jury should have been the ones to determine that. If that same fact pattern applied to some regular joe, you can bet they're going to trial.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:13 pm to
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He may have eventually been acquitted, but a jury should have been the ones to determine that. If that same fact pattern applied to some regular joe, you can bet they're going to trial.

If he really raped her, he will probably get in trouble again (see Memphis State and former Mizzou guard Michael Dixon). If she made it all up, her life will continue to unravel (see Duke Lacrosse accuser). Life has a way of working these things out. It's hard to escape who you are in the long run.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

If he really raped her, he will probably get in trouble again (see Memphis State and former Mizzou guard Michael Dixon).


I thought you might go the OJ route here...
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