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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by OnTheBrink
TN
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:44 pm to
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My sources say you mad, so mad.


Ha, I'm not mad bro. Just think it's funny how serious people take internet posters.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:46 pm to
Uh, already done. I said earlier that Since the case hinged on her memory lapses, I had no access to that info
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Uh, already done. I said earlier that Since the case hinged on her memory lapses, I had no access to that info



Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:54 pm to
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The report that's been released is NOT the SAO report - its the report from the TPD.

The SAO report should be out within 24 hours they said.

So, at this point we're missing a lot of testimony, evidence.

Basically the TPD report is where they had the case as of February when they made it inactive AND the DNA reports that they were given in November.

Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28738 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

And she clearly IDd JW as 6'2"

So all that BS coming from FSU fans was BS



Not exactly,

The next day she identified him as being 5'11" and muscular.

You really need to read all the reports.


Also random: Do rapists usually wear condoms?
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28738 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Link?


I played in college, stories go around the lockerroom.

Also, Casher said in his witness statement that he and Jameis had done so with other girls.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

So all that BS coming from FSU fans was BS



No, if you were informed you would know that this came from the police report from TPD.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:59 pm to
So this thread has 3 types of posters:

Those who fully support Winston/FSU and believe the developments prove this girl made up her entire story because she is an attention whore (and possibly a real whore).

Those who fully support the accuser and believe that this is all a cover up and Winston undoubtedly raped the victim.

And finally, those who look at the facts presented and, regardless of their emotions, understand that there is no way to prove or disprove what happened that night. There is no evidence to prove Winston did anything wrong, just as there is no evidence to prove the accuser had some ulterior motive. These posters understand that you cannot prove that Winston raped her beyond reasonable doubt, nor can you prove that the accuser made up her story beyond a reasonable doubt. As such, Winston will remain a free man and the accuser should be able to continure her life without reprocussions.

I consider myself to be in the last group, but I find it embarassing how many posters are in the first two groups.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28738 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 3:59 pm to
I didn't claim anything, I was responding to another poster.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

texastiger38


I was responding to him also
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:04 pm to
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And finally, those who look at the facts presented and, regardless of their emotions, understand that there is no way to prove or disprove what happened that night. There is no evidence to prove Winston did anything wrong, just as there is no evidence to prove the accuser had some ulterior motive. These posters understand that you cannot prove that Winston raped her beyond reasonable doubt, nor can you prove that the accuser made up her story beyond a reasonable doubt. As such, Winston will remain a free man and the accuser should be able to continure her life without reprocussions. I consider myself to be in the last group, but I find it embarassing how many posters are in the first two groups.


Congrats. I generally consider detached moderation a tell-tale sign of modesty, intelligence, and objectivity. Sometimes it's simply a mark of intellectual laziness or cowardice, however.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:09 pm to
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Also random: Do rapists usually wear condoms?


sometimes they do

putting on a condom does not mean you didn't commit rape.

your GF coming into town does not mean you didn't commit rape.

Again, I am not saying Jameis did it one way or the other but wearing a condom and having a GF en route does not exonerate him or anyone else accused of rape.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28738 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

I was responding to him also


I thought so, just clarifying

I certainly don't want to get put in the same corner has some of the people tarding up this thread.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21116 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:11 pm to
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Sometimes it's simply a mark of intellectual laziness or cowardice, however.


This is the case, as you stated, sometimes. However to me, in this instance I felt it was the BEST position to take clearly due to the sensitive nature of the charges plus the OBVIOUS element of agendas present based on team allegiance, facts not withstanding. Waiting on those in a position to find the most accurate and factual information was the prudent thing to do here.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28738 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

sometimes they do

putting on a condom does not mean you didn't commit rape.

your GF coming into town does not mean you didn't commit rape.

Again, I am not saying Jameis did it one way or the other but wearing a condom and having a GF en route does not exonerate him or anyone else accused of rape.


I'm not saying anything happened or didn't happen, it was just a random general question. I'm sure there's some statistic out there on it, just didn't feel like looking it up myself and figured one of the numerous "rape experts" in this thread could answer it
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

No, if you were informed you would know that this came from the police report from TPD.

I read the report
quote:

******* described the male as a black male that was about 6'2" tall, with a dark complexion, and had hair that looked like it needed to be cut. She said that he had "kind of Asian looking eyes"

You know, because he squints


Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
9955 posts
Posted on 12/5/13 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

You know, because he squints



He only squints in games because he doesnt wear his contacts.

This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 4:23 pm
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