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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:27 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:27 pm
what should they be?

We're dealing with unintended consequences, therefore the NCAA has to adapt, it has to step in this summer and make big changes to set us back on a healthy path.

I am asking what you think the restrictions should be?

We need common sense to prevail here. Provide student athletes funds when needs to need to met.

The situation has escalated to players wanting generational security before they have done anything of value for themselves or the university.


The money is going to dry up because it's not sustainable to pay unproven HS players all this money on potential to help my "beloved school win games".


I believe we need to get back to treating young athletes seeking an athletic scholarship as student athletes rather than treating them as pro athletes in free agency.

That's not the intent of NIL. So fix it!

Fundamentally, the NCAA needs to revisit it's mission statement and get back to it quickly...




This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:28 pm to
The restriction needs to be on the number of transfers.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60576 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:29 pm to
Restriction 1 ) Restrict it to payments for name, image, and likeness
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

NCAA needs to revisit it's mission statement and get back to it quickly...


The NCAA has been spanked by a Federal Court every time they try and restrict NIL. Not sure what you really think they can do at this point
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Restriction 1 ) Restrict it to payments for name, image, and likeness


how do you mean?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

The NCAA has been spanked by a Federal Court every time they try and restrict NIL. Not sure what you really think they can do at this point


That's complete BS

and frankly not sure why the NCAA needs permission to put in rules

everything about college has rules to it

you're providing excuses

what should the restrictions be, just make the make the argument because noone is happy with the NIL



Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
861 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

how do you mean?


NIL doesn’t pay players to use their name, image and likeness (which is what the acronym stands for). It’s straight up paying kids to sign/play for a particular school.

They’re not even trying to follow the “spirit” of NIL because nobody can enforce it.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

NIL doesn’t pay players to use their name, image and likeness (which is what the acronym stands for). It’s straight up paying kids to sign/play for a particular school.

They’re not even trying to follow the “spirit” of NIL because nobody can enforce it.


fair enough but it's hard to unpack and prove it isn't for name image and likeness.

Because you are right, restrictions must be added to ensure the intent is validated in the process rather than allowing corruption to go off the rails



Posted by Gountiss
Boone, NC
Member since Aug 2012
522 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:55 pm to
The only thing I can remotely think about would be to make it a public database of reporting all NIL payments by the athletes. Making transfers sit out a year seems like an option, but I think putting the figures in the open would reveal that maybe those numbers are highly inflated. I just don’t believe a swath of college athletes make more than NFL roster guys
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25749 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:00 pm to
Put the money in annuities for the kids until they reach the age of 25. No 17/18 year old kid should have access to millions.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22932 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Restriction 1 ) Restrict it to payments for name, image, and likeness


This. If the university sells a jersey with your name, you get 1 % of that sale. I mean it's not really that complicated
Posted by louisianamotocross
Member since Sep 2023
84 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:22 pm to
I sure hope someone is thinking of something. Contacts with universities is the only thing that can in my mind. That opens up a crazy can of worms though.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47709 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:25 pm to
Go back to the old transfer rules where you have to sit out a year unless you are a grad transfer or you go down a level would help a lot. The free agency aspect of the portal pisses me off more than blatantly paying a kid. I do agree there needs to be transparency and I think the NCAA probably legally could institute a salary cap of sorts. You want to spend half your cap on a QB then you have to build the rest of your team with what’s left.

If the athletes come back and say you are restricting my ability to earn then say ok you are now free to go pro straight out of high school…. Good luck with that 99.9% of recruits. Nobody is a top earner in their field at 18 damn years old.

This would really put talent evaluation and development back at the forefront. When your Moneyball guy tells you these two 3 stars with upside cost the same as that one 4 star it makes for a very interesting recruiting. No one school could buy all the top talent and maintain a 85 man roster. You would have a few teams that would go the pro roster route and have like a 55 man roster of higher rated guys but would be super thin.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25528 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

because noone is happy with the NIL


You sure about that?
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12153 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:34 pm to
There needs to be a cap on NIL and transfers should not be mentioned, looked at, talked about, etc until after all Bowl and playoff games.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

Go back to the old transfer rules where you have to sit out a year unless you are a grad transfer


I think NIL is separate issue from transfer portal

they are mingled yes, but keep it separate

I am okay with portal if NIL is fixed

NIL contracts should state- 'if you leave us, you return a percentage of the funds"...this will cut down on bolting and other schools poaching players

NIL is a contract, both parties must hold it up!
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:50 pm to
The players need to become employees for the university. Just like coaches. Sign multi year contracts. If another school wants to poach a player they pay the school a buy out and give player a new contract
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
560 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:54 pm to
Install buyout clauses in these deals. If a player leaves he would owe money back to the issuer of the deal.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32846 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:56 pm to
People want to pay kids because of capitalism. But in what world do you have complete independent contract workers paid directly by a third party?

What about each school having a payroll section that collects all money for NIL, pay for play, etc. for college football.
1)Direct payment by a booster results in ineligibility for a year and for any future pay. Wins are also forfeited as well as scholarships. It has to go through the school.
2) At the end of the year the payroll section pays 5th year players 25% of the funds collected, 4 year players get 22%, 3 year players get 20%, 2nd year players get 18% and first year players get 15%.
3) Transfers have to sit out one year unless you are a graduate student.
4) Transfers forfeit their pay for the prior year unless the coach is fired or leaves.
5) Kids who are cut or “processed” get severance pay.
6) If a player opt out of a bowl game or games, the player forfeits 5% of their pay that year.
Posted by SiriusBraveFan
Member since Nov 2014
652 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:58 pm to
I feel like one thing is that NIL deals or offers should not be allowed before a player signs to attend a particular college. The whole point of NIL was supposed to be for the players to get compensated while in school for things such as being in a commercial or sign autographs or sell shirts etc. Not supposed to be "hey come to school here and I'll give you $100,000.
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